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Renowned authors and experts Dr. A.W. Martin and Dr. A.P. Martin of the Martin Clinic share advice on how a back to basics approach to nutrition can have you feeling better and prevent disease.
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Jul 11, 2019

For years, doctors have believed high cholesterol was the sole cause of heart disease and have treated this condition with cholesterol-lowering drugs.


That's their solution to everything. More drugs. More drugs. More drugs. ( It kinda makes you wonder who they're really working for, hug?!)

Last year, 50% of men and 40% of women aged 60 years and older were taking a medication to lower cholesterol!

More than half of coronary artery surgery is performed on patients with normal or even perfect cholesterol levels!

But, they're shooting at the WRONG target.

In this podcast we talk about four heart-stopping culprits that are better indicators than cholesterol for heart disease.

We talk about...


Endothelial Dysfunction

Nitric Oxide


If you're worried about your heart or want to learn how to protect yourself...

Then don't miss this episode!

Jul 4, 2019

In this episode I talk about a couple of new studies that blames the gut for fibromyalgia and Parkinson's.

My first book, many moons ago, was on fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS).

Fibromyalgia and CFS are complicated disorders.

I've always approached them as a problem with the hypothalamus-pituitary-adrenal axis (HPA axis)...

And Leaky Gut Syndrome.

I'm excited to see research finally looking in the right areas.

In this podcast I talk about the gut-fibromyalgia connection...

And how to fix leaky gut syndrome.

I also touch on the connection Insulin has with fibromyalgia as well.

Jun 27, 2019

Mental health issues are at epidemic levels.

By age 40, almost 50% of the population will have had a mental illness.

Why are more people suffering from anxiety, depression, or other mental issues?

In this episode I talk about an often overlooked cause...Childhood medications.

I talk about antibiotics and leaky gut syndrome, Birth control pills and B12, and other over the counter drugs.

Jun 20, 2019

Over the years, we've talked a lot about insulin...specifically high circulating insulin. When your insulin levels are too high for too long, you're at risk for EVERY major disease.

In fact, if you have chronically elevated insulin...

You'll end up with either...

Heart Disease


Alzheimer's or Dementia


How do you know if your insulin levels are high?

Based on tens of thousands of patient visits over the years...I've seen many different possible symptoms associated with high circulating insulin.

And...many of the symptoms are surprising.

In this episode I talk about insulin.

How insulin works, and what food does to insulin levels.

I also talk about why 'good' carbs can still cause you big problems...especially if you're metabolically damaged.

Jun 13, 2019

Inflammation is a big problem. Many say, inflammation is the root of all disease. But is it?

In this episode we talk about inflammation.

We talk about crappy carbs, crappy oils, leaky gut syndrome, candida, and other big causes of inflammation.

We also share with you tests you can ask your doctor about to help find inflammation.

We also talk about how to get rid of inflammation.

Jun 6, 2019

In this episode we talk about the effect cortisol has on men and women. High cortisol causes fatigue, insomnia, anxiety, depression, brain fog in both men and women.
But, high cortisol in men kills their testosterone. In women, high cortisol robs their progesterone.
We talk about the symptoms associated with low testosterone in men.
We also talk about how high cortisol causes thyroid symptoms and estrogen dominance symptoms in women.
Controlling cortisol is one of the most important things you can do for your health.



Dr. Martin Jr: You're listening to The Doctor Is In podcast from Martin Clinic dot com. Although we share a lot of practical and, in our opinion, awesome information, what you hear on this podcast is not intended to diagnose, cure, treat or prevent any disease. It's strictly for informational purposes, so enjoy.

Dr.Martin Jr: Hello, I'm Doctor Martin Junior.

Dr.Martin Sr: I'm Doctor Martin Senior.

Dr.Martin Jr: And this is The Doctor Is In podcast, [00:00:30] and this is episode 188. And today we're going to talk about something that we feel is probably one of the biggest health concerns that we see today, and it's affecting millions of people. Doesn't matter where you live in this world. Especially in the industrialized world and the first world issues, and that has to do with high cortisol. And we're going to talk specifically how having high cortisol affects [00:01:00] men and women differently. There are some things that they're going to share, and we'll talk about that. However, there are some things that are drastically different in terms of how high cortisol affects men and women. So that's what we want to talk about today.

Dr.Martin Jr: But first, one of the things that always comes up whenever we start talking about adrenals is somebody will always bring up a systematic review that was done [00:01:30] a few years ago that basically says that adrenal fatigue doesn't exist, it's a myth. And people will always being that up because hey, a systemic review said adrenal fatigue is a myth. And we would agree based on the definition that they have for adrenal fatigue. Because what they're saying is due to chronic stress, the adrenals are overworked and, like anything else that's overworked, eventually they get tired and they [00:02:00] get fatigued. And as a result of this fatigue of the adrenal glands, your body stops or makes very little cortisol.

Dr.Martin Jr: So the definition of adrenal fatigue is somebody who has low cortisol, so they'll say that that doesn't exist, and we would agree with that to a certain extent because that's the exact opposite of what we actually see in real life. That's not what happens in real life. [00:02:30] The average person who runs into problems with their adrenal glands aren't suffering from low cortisol, it's the actual opposite that's happening. They have high cortisol levels. And so we would agree with that. And again, we don't care. People will bring it up and they'll say "Well, what do you think?" And our first reaction is well, we don't care. Why would we care? We see what we see all the time, and I don't need a piece [00:03:00] of paper to tell me that millions of people are suffering from symptoms. They're just labeling it wrong. They're just labeling the whole thing incorrectly. So that's that.

Dr.Martin Sr: Yeah, it's mislabeled, but there's no doubt that there is a condition. And like you said, it's so prevalent in our society today of ... Not people running around with low cortisol when people are running around, literally, with extreme levels of cortisol [00:03:30] over a prolonged period of time, that is very unhealthy for a person. And we're going to explain that in this podcast, because how many years have we been talking about this type of condition? As long as I've been in practice.

Dr.Martin Jr: Let's just start by breaking down exactly what's going on inside the body, and then we'll go into how it affects men and women differently, and then if we have time at the end we can talk a little bit about [00:04:00] how to overcome some of these issues that we're going to talk about today.

Dr.Martin Jr: Everything starts with stress, right? Everything, when it comes to the adrenal glands, starts with stress. What happens? Let's just say that you and I ... Let's just say I'm walking home. And it's dark outside, and I notice that there is a clown in a window. I see a clown in a window, I pass the window, [00:04:30] then the clown's not there and all of a sudden I hear somebody walking behind me. That would be a stressful ...

Dr.Martin Sr: It sounds like a horror movie [crosstalk 00:04:39]

Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah, clowns are terrifying. So that would be a stressful situation, right?

Dr.Martin Sr: Yeah.

Dr.Martin Jr: What happens at that point physiologically is my body is preparing for something that it calls fight or flight, right? That's what it's going to call for. It's the concept of violence [00:05:00] or silence, right? My body's getting ready. What happens then is my brain basically tells me adrenals to get going, and it does a few things. It produces adrenaline, adrenaline is like a fast acting fuel.

Dr.Martin Sr: Yeah, that's the short fuse.

Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah, that gets your body absolutely prepared to fight or flight. And then at the same time you're releasing cortisol, which is a little bit slower of a burn. And one of the things that cortisol [00:05:30] does that most people are surprised at is cortisol raises your blood sugar levels. It actually is one of the hormones that will bring up your blood sugar levels, and it makes sense because-

Dr.Martin Sr: Well, you want energy.

Dr.Martin Jr: Exactly.

Dr.Martin Sr: Short term.

Dr.Martin Jr: Your body thinks it needs energy, so your body decides hey, let's get some blood glucose going so we can burn it off as energy. And that's great when there's a clown chasing you, but if you're sitting in an office and you're stressed and your cortisol is constantly bringing up your blood sugars, [00:06:00] that's not a good thing right? And the funny thing is this. If you go look at how stress is defined, there's what they call absolute stress, and then they call relative stress. So you have a general heading of stress. Underneath that, all stress breaks into what they call absolute stress or relative stress.

Dr.Martin Jr: Absolute stress is just basically anybody who would be exposed to that would interpret it as stress. For example, [00:06:30] a tsunami. Everybody that's in the area of a tsunami, that would they call absolute stress. Everybody in that situation would interpret that as stress.

Dr.Martin Sr: You know, I had a patient in this morning that was telling me she was in Chile when an earthquake hit at 8.8 on the Richter scale. They thought they were going to die. So can you imagine her cortisol? She was telling me that story [crosstalk 00:06:54]

Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah, adrenaline, everything, right? Everything would be up and running.

Dr.Martin Sr: Oh, man. And she said ... You know what? It was just interesting because I [00:07:00] was testing her cortisol this morning, and I'm saying she's never really recovered from that. It's given her anxiety since then. But anyway, we [crosstalk 00:07:09]

Dr.Martin Jr: That's what we're going to talk about. So that's absolute stress. But then there's something called relative stress, and relative basically is exactly what it means, that some people exposed to that would interpret thy as stress. Not everybody. For example, traffic. Traffic is a relative stress. Some people can sit in traffic and [00:07:30] they're whistling and nothing bothers them, and other people, they've got their hands at ten and two and they're gripping the steering wheel tight and they're angry, right?

Dr.Martin Sr: Me.

Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah, so and ... Yeah. And we live in Sudbury, so you can imagine. So that's the thing. But it doesn't end there, because under both of those you have what they call acute chronic. You can have acute stress, chronic stress. Basically at the end of the day, some people will interpret stress differently than others, and then other times we'll all interpret stress [00:08:00] the same way. But why does that matter, why am I bringing that up? Because stress comes in the form of many things, and it affects everybody differently. You and I, for example, could be in the presence of mold. And if my body is a perfect storm of allowing me to be ... And that comes back to mum's story, right? You both lived in the same house.

Dr.Martin Sr: And it didn't bother me at all.

Dr.Martin Jr: It didn't bother you, but you both lived in the same house that had a mold issue in the basement where the hot tub was [00:08:30] and that devastated mom's health, and it didn't affect you at all. That is considered a relative stressor. A chronic relative stressor, because you were in there the same length of time she was and it almost literally killed her. It literally killed her. So that's why these things, when it comes to stress, is very hard to pinpoint, because you could have a husband and wife that comes into the clinic exposed to the same thing and the wife feels terrible or the husband feels [00:09:00] terrible and the other one's like "I feel fine."

Dr.Martin Jr: Which then brings up the other issue is like "I don't believe him." Right? It's tough to gain sympathy after a while when you're not feeling well and you've both been exposed to the same thing and the other person doesn't feel it. That's why this is difficult. When we talk about stress, it could be anything. You've done this so many times. Like you said, it could be a past history of a bad accident, tough divorce ...

Dr.Martin Sr: Financial.

Dr.Martin Jr: Bankruptcy, [00:09:30] financial.

Dr.Martin Sr: Sickness.

Dr.Martin Jr: Those things there-

Dr.Martin Sr: A child being sick.

Dr.Martin Jr: And that leaves a fingerprint on the body. For some people that leaves more than a fingerprint on the body. That sets off a biochemical, physiological, hormonal response for the next 20 years in their body, and it's under the surface.

Dr.Martin Sr: And this is where, again, traditional medicine often is so ... They can't think outside the box. [00:10:00] So if it's under the surface, unless it comes up and literally it bites them in terms of blood work and the normal things they test, they can't see it. So they dismiss it. "You're not sick, you're depressed." Or "You don't have ... " Well first of all, they rarely ever test any cortisol. But even if you did, you've got to put it all into the picture because otherwise you miss [00:10:30] it. And this is why I like what we call functional medicine, in a sense that we're into functional medicine, meaning that we're looking for the root cause.

Dr.Martin Sr: This is why we always, I like your term, reverse engineer it. If you have a problem, let's go backwards. Let's find out what started it. When was the last time you felt well? When was the last ... Do you know what I mean? By asking enough questions. And then you [00:11:00] look at blood work, and then you look at ... You know what I mean? It's best to get a real good history, then you can sort of slot in stuff like the adrenals.

Dr.Martin Jr: And that's why ... We did a video on this and we also talked about this in our leaky gut webinar that we did not too long ago. The three seeds of disease, how if you were to reverse engineer a lot of these diseases, at the start of them would be ... Everybody says inflammation, but if you go further back than inflammation [00:11:30] it would be free radical damage, leaky gut syndrome and high circulating insulin. And then we have often [inaudible 00:11:36] cortisol, which is an accelerant and it makes everything worse. Because if you have a bad gut or you have a ton of free radical damage or you have high circulating insulin, you throw chronic high cortisol into the mix, it's devastating. It absolutely will devastate, right?

Dr.Martin Sr: The great accelerator.

Dr.Martin Jr: So if we go back to ... Let's go back again. Stress is a relative [00:12:00] term for a lot of people. You can have 30 people in the same office and one person goes off on stress leave because their body ... Everybody's different. But again, I think that that is the perfect storm. I mean, you remember the movie The Perfect Storm. I kind of ruined the movie for Erika, my wife, because like I said, all they know is they got on the boat and they didn't come back, everything else was just made up. We don't know what ... They had all these deep conversations in the movie and I'm like well, that's fiction, it's just around the ... But at the end of the [00:12:30] day, it was three systems that collided that created this perfect storm.

Dr.Martin Sr: 60 foot waves or something, right?

Dr.Martin Jr: And that's how people are. Some people, they have the perfect conditions in their body so that when this comes along, all of a sudden it just takes off on the person, right? So you have something that's called the HPH access. And basically it's very simple, this is what it is. When you come into contact with stress, a part of your brain called the hypothalamus basically starts the process. The hypothalamus [00:13:00] will tell the pituitary gland, which is the middle man, to get your adrenals going. So you have the hypothalamus tells the pituitary, which then turns around and tells the adrenals "All right, start producing some stuff." Right? "Start producing some adrenaline, start producing some cortisol."

Dr.Martin Jr: And normally what happens is as you make cortisol, then cortisol is a feedback loop, so it tells the hypothalamus "Okay, enough," It yells at it, "Stop, we've got enough." [00:13:30] Right? So let's just say you're really worried about an exam. Your hypothalamus gets your pituitary going and your pituitary gets the adrenals, the adrenals make cortisol and then cortisol comes along and says to the brain "All right, enough, we've got enough. We don't need anymore." And that's a normal feedback loop, that's what happens. When you're healthy, that's exactly what's going on. The problem is-

Dr.Martin Sr: Your body is made for stress, so let's not ... Right? I mean, you're fearfully, wonderfully [00:14:00] made. Your body is-

Dr.Martin Jr: Well cortisol and adrenaline, it saves your life.

Dr.Martin Sr: Yeah.

Dr.Martin Jr: You need them. You need that burst of energy. Adrenaline is like, do you remember those Fast and the Furious movies? I've watched all of like, 15 of them, I can't remember how many there are. And they're always racing at the last second it looks like he's going to lose and he pushes the nitrous button, right? And it just ejects him, it just flies. And everybody wants that in their car, they push a button and it just gives them extra horsepower. But that's adrenaline. Adrenaline is that shot of that, exactly. [00:14:30] Your body needs it, it will literally save your life. There's a lot of videos on the internet where they call it, like, dad strength. Something's about to go bad and they show a video of a dad lifting something that he normally would never-

Dr.Martin Sr: Or a mom.

Dr.Martin Jr: Or a mom, exactly, lifting something.

Dr.Martin Sr: I saw something the other day, a woman lifted a car because it was on her son.

Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah. So that's the whole combination of everything from miracle strength to mom strength to adrenaline, it's just, that's what happens. It's like she's Hulking out on that. But [00:15:00] at the end of the day that's normal, you need that. You have a normal feedback mechanism to keep all that in check, but what happens when stress is chronic? When stress is no longer a periodic thing, when stress is chronic, what happens is cortisol does a whole bunch of things as well besides just raising your glucose levels. Cortisol does a lot of other things. And again, on the surface they're very good for you. But [00:15:30] if cortisol is always going, cortisol creates a ton of inflammation. And it does so two ways.

Dr.Martin Jr: Two ways. One, cortisol directly influences cytokines, which are chemical messengers that kick off inflammation. More cortisol, more cytokines, more inflammation. However, cortisol actually, and this is something else most people don't realize, normal amounts of cortisol is actually very anti-inflammatory. [00:16:00] Because cortisol, when cortisol is present in a normal amount, it is modulating your immune cells. But when it's too much, the cells stop listening to it, and then the immune system could go crazy, inflammation goes crazy. And again, we have a presentation that by the time this is out should be on our website on all this. It's a video, and it will explain all this stuff. And if this sounds like you at all, then you definitely [00:16:30] going to go watch that video.

Dr.Martin Jr: But anyways, what happens is when you have chronic stress and your adrenals are constantly producing cortisol, then you end up with a lot of inflammation. And this is what happens then. Inflammation basically stops cortisol from being able to stop your brain from telling your adrenals to make more cortisol. So that feedback loop that normally happens [00:17:00] ...

Dr.Martin Sr: Gets disrupted.

Dr.Martin Jr: It gets disrupted. So now you're in this circle of making cortisol that you can't stop, because the normal mechanism in place, the normal safeguards in place, aren't working anymore because inflammation has clouded that whole process. We've said this before ...

Dr.Martin Sr: It's like a fog.

Dr.Martin Jr: It is. Because the cells communicate to each other via signals. And we just ... Imagine standing you and I on the opposite end of [00:17:30] a road, and we're communicating no problem through thick fog where I can't see in front of my face and we're trying to do hand signs to each other. That's essentially the same thing that's happening to the cells in your body. They no longer can communicate properly. Inflammation disrupts chemical communications, and that's what's happening. You know in the movies, and this is a good way of thinking about it, it's always funny because whenever something bad is happening in a movie where there's terrorists or there's somebody doing a heist job, [00:18:00] you always say "Take out your phone and make a call." But it's always convenient, because these guys always have cellphone jammers with them. Apparently you can buy them everywhere, because they all have them right? Everybody has a cellphone jammer.

Dr.Martin Jr: Inflammation is like turning on a cellphone jammer, that's what's happening. So now, you can't stop making cortisol. So once you start making too much cortisol, you can't stop making cortisol. Your mechanism to shut that down is over. So when what happens? Then you have tons [00:18:30] of inflammation, tons of inflammation. And, as you and I have said before, all the top killers all reverse engineer back to inflammation. So high cortisol can cause, really directly cause, all of the top killers from heart disease, cancers, dementia. All of these things can trace their roots back to high cortisol. And then you can go further back than that, but that tells you how important [00:19:00] it is to have your cortisol controlled. That's how important that is.

Dr.Martin Jr: So that's the mechanism there that's taking place. But when a man or a woman starts to have high cortisol, you start to see different symptoms. Some of the symptoms will be the same because we know high cortisol kills the gut, it actually reduces something called secretory IGA, kills it, so your gut gets killed. We know it thins your blood brain barrier [00:19:30] so your brain gets killed. So men and women, it can affect their brains, it can affect their gut, we know that, it can affect their immune system. People that have high cortisol get sick more often. We know that.

Dr.Martin Sr: Yeah. Their immune system is sidetracked, right?

Dr.Martin Jr: And something else I don't think most people realize. If you and I are exposed to a cold virus, people think, and it makes sense, that the cold virus causes you to cough. [00:20:00] But that's not true. Coughing is a side effect of your body trying to fight off the virus so your body initiates the coughing, not the other way around. I mean, it's six of one, half dozen the other, but it does make a difference. So coughing, for example, is the side effect of the inflammatory reaction or the immune system reaction to that virus. The more coughing, the more your body reacts to that virus.

Dr.Martin Jr: Do you know [00:20:30] what determines the level of reaction that somebody has to a virus? Cortisol. Because cortisol messes up the immune system and the body will overreact. They've done the study. They've done these studies exactly where they've taken people and they've actually exposed them to a common cold virus at a ward, a hospital ward, and then observed people. And the level of symptoms were directly proportional to their cortisol. [00:21:00] So the higher the cortisol, the more symptoms they had. Other people would have the virus but they got no symptoms, because they-

Dr.Martin Sr: Yeah. They got exposed, but-

Dr.Martin Jr: Everybody got exposed. So that's how important cortisol is. People that are high cortisol are always sick. They're coming into the same contact with everything else, but because their gut is a mess and their immune system's a mess and they have high cortisol, guess what happens? They get a lot of symptoms. People that have chronically high ... They always either have sicknesses [00:21:30] or allergies.

Dr.Martin Sr: Yeah. And unexplained, they can come out of nowhere.

Dr.Martin Jr: They're allergic to everything, because their body reacts to everything because they've got high cortisol. It's crazy. But that's what happens. Men and women can both get that, you can have that in men or women. But where it differs is ... This is what happens in women. In order to make cortisol, they steal progesterone. And when you steal progesterone, you end up with lower progesterone and you end up with an estrogen dominance because you have more estrogen [00:22:00] than progesterone. The ratio has changed too much, and then guess what happens from there? When a woman has estrogen dominance, they get every estrogen symptom, then they get every thyroid symptom, then they get every ovary symptom, it's just a circle from there. They become a hormonal mess because they have high circulating cortisol.

Dr.Martin Jr: And we've talked about this on our programs before, especially in our video presentations. We've talked [00:22:30] about this a lot. But cortisol, we call it the great accelerant because it will accelerate hormonal issues quickly.

Dr.Martin Sr: Yeah, quickly, yeah.

Dr.Martin Jr: Now, for men it's different. Men, they don't run into that issue. However, cortisol, rather than stealing progesterone in men, it steals testosterone.

Dr.Martin Sr: Yeah. The manly hormone goes down.

Dr.Martin Jr: When you have high circulating cortisol, you have low testosterone. And guess what? A man that has low testosterone is tired [00:23:00] all the time, specifically at night time, you're fatigued. After supper they just want to lie on the couch, they're tired.

Dr.Martin Sr: Yeah. And when your testosterone goes down, your nitric oxide goes down.

Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah, so talk about that, because that's fascinating [crosstalk 00:23:12] you were telling me about this before.

Dr.Martin Sr: Yeah. Just because when you get low testosterone, why men react differently, not that they can't get anxiety, of course they can. And anxiety, by the way, is high levels of cortisol, right? It's just a period of fight or flight that doesn't [00:23:30] get turned off. Anxiety can then lead into depression, they're usually two sides of the same coin, anxiety and depression. And by the way, anxiety has taken over depression in terms of mental health issues today in North America, isn't that crazy? First time in recorded medical history that anxiety is more prevalent than depression. It all has to do with cortisol.

Dr.Martin Sr: But what I was saying is that when the testosterone goes down, and man, [00:24:00] one of the things that they find which is always interesting is that what it does is it takes your nitric oxide and lowers your nitric oxide. Well, why is that significant? Because nitric oxide, NO, okay? Means no, no sex. No muscle strength, no brainpower. You see, for men, men need ... And you and I talk about this a lot. If they want they can go back to episode, I can't remember what it is, 150 something.

Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah, in the 50's [00:24:30] about testosterone.

Dr.Martin Sr: 150 something we talked about ... Probably about 25 or so podcasts ago, we talked about testosterone health. But one of the factors is nitric oxide. Now, what is nitric oxide? Nitric oxide is a substance within your blood vessels that ... Your body has nitric oxide, think of nitroglycerine. Why do they give you nitro patches? Why did they give you nitroglycerine as a medication? [00:25:00] Because it gets rid of angina, because it opens up your blood vessels. So your body has nitroglycerine, it has nitric oxide, is what it's called. And nitric oxide, when it goes down, if you have ... Men, why it's so dangerous for your heart, is because your blood vessels are not going to open properly because your nitric oxide goes down.

Dr.Martin Sr: Now, it does more than that. Nitric oxide's important for your [00:25:30] immune system and several other things, but think of what happens to the brain. If you're not getting as much circulation in a man, think of what stress does. The high secretion of cortisol over a period of time takes a man's nitric oxide, his heart isn't as strong, his brain isn't functioning near as well, and this can have an effect on your memory and brain fog and ... And then without the proper blood supply, think about what it does. We talked about sexual, what about [00:26:00] ED? That's a big, big issue today in society. And we talked about how insulin can affect that, because insulin can affect your circular. But nitric oxide is affected, which is when you have low levels of testosterone.

Dr.Martin Sr: So your libido's down, and for a man, you said fatigue and sexually fatigued, because you have no ... Nitric oxide opens up the little blood vessels to [00:26:30] the male organ, and ... You know? [crosstalk 00:26:32]

Dr.Martin Jr: Well, plus testosterone also ... One of the effects of low testosterone that you see in men is it actually hurts their confidence, so that affects them emotionally, physically ... Everything. So it affects their confidence.

Dr.Martin Sr: You know, we saw, I was saying to you off-air here just a few minutes ago, and I had just come back from my 45th reunion. So think about it. I graduated fairly young, so [00:27:00] some of the guys, one of my colleagues there was 76, the other one one guy was 74, and some guys are so frail, it's unbelievable. But they have ... What the lack of testosterone does, think about, like only blood supply ... Muscle. They're frail. And you see it [crosstalk 00:27:24]

Dr.Martin Jr: Well, and they feel weaker, right?

Dr.Martin Sr: They feel [crosstalk 00:27:25]

Dr.Martin Jr: Because low testosterone makes you feel weaker.

Dr.Martin Sr: And your heart's a muscle!

Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah, [00:27:30] your heart's a muscle.

Dr.Martin Sr: Your heart's a muscle, you and I talk about that all the time, that's why we're so much against [inaudible 00:27:35] because of what they do to the muscles.

Dr.Martin Jr: Unfortunately, the whole testosterone steroid connection, right? So people think ... That's what they think of. They think testosterone, they think of massive muscles, but that isn't just testosterone that they're doing. But at the end of the day, it's hard to build muscle when you have low testosterone. [00:28:00] It's hard to have stamina, it's hard to have energy, it's hard to think properly, it's hard to ... Even, they've done studies, low testosterone men have a hard time making a decision even. They're less confident in their decisions, so it's amazing how much we are ... Well, we are regulated by our hormones. Men, we're regulated by insulin, cortisol and testosterone, for the most part. Listen, there's a lot more in there and that's a really over simplification.

Dr.Martin Jr: But a lot of men's health issues can be traced back to three [00:28:30] things. They have high insulin, they have low testosterone and they have high cortisol. That is the triad for men right there. A majority of men's health issues can be fixed by correcting those three things. Now, again, men can have digestive issues, I'm not saying that, but I'm saying the average man who's tired ...

Dr.Martin Sr: And we look at hormones. [crosstalk 00:28:52]

Dr.Martin Jr: Those are three things.

Dr.Martin Sr: [inaudible 00:28:53] is that we really look at that, and we simplify it. But you're absolutely ...

Dr.Martin Jr: And women, women it's cortisol, [00:29:00] it's estrogen, progesterone, it's thyroid, big time thyroid.

Dr.Martin Sr: See how the thyroid is affected so much by how cortisol is [inaudible 00:29:09]

Dr.Martin Jr: Well you and I did a presentation on thyroid distress syndrome, which is the name we give to a person who has thyroid symptoms but normal blood testing, which is very, very, very common. So we use the term thyroid distress syndrome. In our opinion, for a lot of women, the cause [00:29:30] of thyroid distress syndrome is cortisol, for a lot of women. That's the number one cause of thyroid distress syndrome. The thyroid is under stress because the cortisol is too high, the adrenals are messed up. But they're not messed up that they're fatigued and not making cortisol, they're just making way too much of it.

Dr.Martin Sr: Way too much of it.

Dr.Martin Jr: And as you mentioned, we're not even talking about the affect that it has on insomnia, we're not even talking about the effect that it has on anxiety, depression.

Dr.Martin Sr: But you can see how it gets into vicious [00:30:00] cycle. Like even, we've talked about this many a time, about sleep and when you're exhausted and you're not sleeping. If you don't sleep, your cortisol goes up. Your cortisol goes up, you don't sleep. And then you add hot flashes in women and whatever, and even then it could be caused by cortisol that's robbing progesterone, it's robbing progesterone. I always say, women, you've got estrogen, don't worry about estrogen. You'd better have the big equalizer, [00:30:30] is progesterone in women.

Dr.Martin Jr: And then you'd better also not be robbing progesterone all the time, which is why a lot of women who go on bio-identicals, progesterone, they don't get the full benefits until they control their cortisol.

Dr.Martin Sr: Exactly.

Dr.Martin Jr: They do not get the same effects. It doesn't matter. That is the linchpin, that's the tipping point, that's the key to everything for a lot of people. If they can control their cortisol, it's amazing [00:31:00] how everything else falls into place better. They get better results fixing their thyroid when they control their cortisol, even their gut, their brain, everything. That's how important this is.

Dr.Martin Sr: I've got my hand up.

Dr.Martin Jr: Okay, go ahead, you can ask a question.

Dr.Martin Sr: I just want to bring out a point to show you how long I've been thinking about this. And what did we know about the science in those days like we know today? But think about chronic fatigue, which is like an epidemic. [00:31:30] Chronic fatigue syndrome, which was named ...

Dr.Martin Jr: Well you know a lot about this because is really what changed everything that we do.

Dr.Martin Sr: Yep, really did. It really did. When you think of it, the pivot point at the Martin Clinic was your mother. And I'm a guy, I want to know the bottom line. I always look for cause and effect. Anyway. But when you think about with CFS, like when they said chronic fatigue, and that's one [00:32:00] of the latest names. Before that they had ME and they had all sorts [crosstalk 00:32:04]

Dr.Martin Jr: Isn't there another one called hippy flu?

Dr.Martin Sr: Hippy flu, the ... The yuppie flu, the yuppie flu. They called it the yuppie flu because it was generally upscale white women, you know, generally, that got it. But think of what it was, right? It's exactly what we're talking about.

Dr.Martin Jr: And it's the perfect storm. Their body is the perfect storm.

Dr.Martin Sr: Stress.

Dr.Martin Jr: Yes. Yes.

Dr.Martin Sr: Your mother was mold [crosstalk 00:32:30] [00:32:30] that really got [crosstalk 00:32:32]

Dr.Martin Jr: It was. And mold is a chronic, chronic stressor.

Dr.Martin Sr: Big time.

Dr.Martin Jr: And it's a disproportionate reaction to that chronic stressor, because the body is primed for that.

Dr.Martin Sr: Yeah, and your mom had this primed.

Dr.Martin Jr: And that's why you become a ... One of the early diagnoses she had was hypersensitive pneumonitis, which is she was allergic to everything. It makes sense. When you have high cortisol you're allergic to ...

Dr.Martin Sr: You become hypersensitive.

Dr.Martin Jr: Well, [00:33:00] it's interesting. Because it does decrease secretory IGA, which is the antibodies you secrete in your mucous glands, you make, I think, about 2000 grams of it a day. It's the first line of defence.

Dr.Martin Sr: It's in your nasal passages, your throat, it's the mucous. It also lines your gut. You make a ton of it in your gut because things get through the stomach, you have antibodies in your lining to kill things off. Imagine you don't have that anymore, or you have a lot less of it. [00:33:30] You become allergic to everything, because everything's getting through that shouldn't get through. So high cortisol, you become allergic to everything. Look at CFS and fibromyalgia. Think of the symptoms they have. Extreme fatigue. They can't sleep, they wake up non-restful.

Dr.Martin Sr: Brain fog.

Dr.Martin Jr: Brain fog. That's cortisol.

Dr.Martin Sr: Yeah.

Dr.Martin Jr: Allergies to everything, that's cortisol. Again, and this is not-

Dr.Martin Sr: Poor immune system.

Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah, of course. And this is not an oversimplification, [00:34:00] this is exactly what's going on.

Dr.Martin Sr: Yeah, for sure.

Dr.Martin Jr: That's what's going on in all [crosstalk 00:34:04]

Dr.Martin Sr: And I was the first guy to say it, too.

Dr.Martin Jr: Yeah, I remember in one of your books, looking at a chart that you had drawn up about the adrenals. And, yeah. That was the first I've ever seen it. Even if I do research now, very few people have put it all together. But I'm telling you, this is what's going on for a lot of people. And it's going on for people that can't sleep that are anxious, that have fatigue, this is the underlying thing [00:34:30] that's going on for a lot of people. So this is a big topic.

Dr.Martin Sr: It's a big topic.

Dr.Martin Jr: This is a crucial topic for your health. This is a big one. And I thought about this the other day, I heard this about something else, but it's funny. Health is like oxygen. If you have oxygen you're never thinking about it, until you take oxygen out of the room and then that's all you think about. That's health for a lot of people. Fatigue is the same way, energy is the same way. Energy is like oxygen. [00:35:00] When oxygen's around, you never think about it.

Dr.Martin Sr: Yeah. Like me. I don't think about it [crosstalk 00:35:03]

Dr.Martin Jr: But I'll tell you, when energy starts to go away, that's all you think about. All of a sudden it's like, where did my energy go?

Dr.Martin Jr: That's what happens, right?

Dr.Martin Sr: Yeah. And it's never normal.

Dr.Martin Jr: Never normal. There's always something going on that's a check engine light, like we've said before, the body's telling you something's going on.

Dr.Martin Sr: Yeah, for sure.

Dr.Martin Jr: All right. So we shared a ton of information. Again, by the time this episode comes out on our website, we should have a link to watch our recorded webinar, [00:35:30] because we're doing a webinar tomorrow night but we're going to record it, we'll have it available on our website. And the information ... The webinar will be more of what we talked about today with how to fix it, and crucial stuff for your health. So again we thank you for listening, and have a great day.

Dr.Martin Sr: Thanks for listening to The Doctor Is In podcast from Martin Clinic dot com. If you have any questions, you can reach us at info at Martin Clinic dot com. If you're not a newsletter [00:36:00] subscriber, you can head to our website and sign up for free. We also have a private Facebook group that you can join. It's a community of awesome people. Finally, I do a Facebook live every Thursday morning at 8:30. Join us again next week for a new episode.


May 30, 2019

In this episode, we talk about the most prescribed medications by age, based on data from the U.S Department of Health and Human Services.

We talk about the rise of asthma in kids and the most significant cause of symptoms. We talk about the most common food allergies or sensitivities that cause asthma-like symptoms.

We also talk about the best way to naturally avoid the most common prescription drugs by preventing the issue in the first place.

May 23, 2019

Do you get enough Omega-3's in your diet?

If you're like most people...then unfortunately, you most likely don't.

Blood Omega-3 levels are an important indicator of both present and future health. Low levels increase your risk of almost everything...heart disease, cancer, Alzheimer's, inflammation, dementia, etc...

In this episode we talk about Omega-3's...Especially DHA.

We talk about studies showing how DHA can protect against common EYE problems...

As well as how good it is for your heart, kidneys, bladder, skin, and brain.

We also talk about why most people don't get enough in their diet, even if they're taking fish oil supplements.


May 16, 2019

For the first time in 50 years, heart disease deaths are up. Yet, more people are taking cholesterol lowering drugs or blood pressure pills than ever.

Its obvious medicine is looking in the wrong place. In this episode we talk about the real cause of heart disease.

We also talk about cholesterol, the good, bad, and ugly. We also share what foods to eat to prevent heart disease.

May 9, 2019

Doctors are warning that millions are using acid reflux drugs for too long. Most people are unaware of the serious side effects associated with these drugs.

In this episode we talk about potential side effects of long term use of acid reflux drugs. We talk abut B12, anemia, brain, heart, and immune system.

We also talk about the REAL cause of heartburn and how to fix it naturally.

May 2, 2019

In this podcast we answer listener questions from our latest webinar. The first question we discuss is about canola oil and other vegetable oils.

Vegetable oils are high in omega-6 and the average person eats 17 times more omega-6 compared to omega-3 in a day, which is terrible for your health. This has lead to significant inflammation and many modern diseases.

We talk about research showing amazing benefits when eating a lower omega-6 to omega-3 ratio.

We also talk about a study showing how omega-6 fatty acids in seed oils cause your heart cell mitochondria to become more dysfunctional as you age.

We share our favourite oils to cook with.

The second question we answer is about fasting, specifically for weight loss.

Apr 25, 2019

In this episode we talk about the amazing, immediate benefits cutting out sugar has on five organs.

We talk about the effect of cutting out sugar has on your:






Many of the benefits we talk about are independent of weight loss. Even if you don't lose any weight from cutting out sugar, you'll still benefit metabolically.

Apr 18, 2019

Heart disease is still the #1 killer in North America even though millions of people take cholesterol lowering drugs.

In this podcast we talk about the BEST predictor of heart disease and heart attacks...


We also talk about...

How you become insulin resistant

The three insulin roadblocks

How to overcome insulin resistance 

Apr 11, 2019

After one of our webinars, someone asked us about fatty liver, specifically if it can be reversed. In this podcast we answer that question in more detail.

We talk about the function of the liver and one of the biggest myths...that the liver is a filter.

We talk about how the liver becomes fatty, why it's very common and how dangerous it is long term.

We also discuss a study showing it takes only 7 days to put fat on a liver.

More importantly, we talk about how to reverse fatty liver.


Apr 4, 2019

In this episode we talk about how a B12 deficiency can literally cause your brain to can rot your brain.

We talk about how vitamin B12 is a common deficiency that a majority of people experience.

We talk about three reasons why so many are deficient:

Poor digestion

Not eating enough


We also talk about the importance of getting the right kind of B12 since many on the market are synthetic and aren't found anywhere in nature.

We also talk about how to keep your brain healthy as you age

Mar 28, 2019

In this episode we talk about the real causes of sluggish thyroid. Many women experience the frustration of having thyroid symptoms and yet have normal blood work. Why is that? In this podcast we talk about the real causes and why your thyroid is not the actual cause, but the effect.

We discuss the effect stress, leaky gut, estrogen dominance, liver, and iodine have on your thyroid.

Mar 21, 2019

In this episode we talk about the five main causes of hair loss. We talk about sluggish thyroid, high cortisol, low stomach acid and digestive enzymes, low protein intake, and low iron.

Hair is an important biomarker. In order to have healthy hair, you need healthy thyroid, good digestion, adequate protein and iron intake. If any of these are missing or not working properly, then you are at risk for thinning or losing your hair.

Mar 14, 2019

We've been talking about low carb diets in our clinic for over a decade. Low carb eating is the best way to fix high circulating insulin, which is the main cause of Type-2 Diabetes, heart disease, Alzheimer's and Dementia.

But what does low carb even mean? How low do you have to go?

Ketogenic 'keto' diets are all the rage right now. Does everyone need to go keto?

How many carbs should you eat?

In this podcast we talk about low carb diets and why it's a spectrum.

We discuss the three insulin roadblocks...

Eating Window

Eating Frequency

Carbohydrate Tolerance

Mar 7, 2019

Many women experience the frustration of having normal thyroid blood tests even though they have sluggish thyroid symptoms.

In this podcast we talk about three big reasons why you can have many hypothyroid symptoms and still have normal blood tests.

Common sluggish thyroid symptoms include:

  • Hair loss
  • Fatigue
  • Exhaustion
  • Weight Gain
  • Cold hands/feet
  • Depression
  • Dry Skin
  • Muscle cramps
  • Poor memory
  • Constipation

We talk about why the size of the thyroid, subclinical hypothyroidism, and the Metabolic Storm can all cause normal testing


Dr. Martin Jr.: You're listening to the Doctors in Podcasts from Although we share a lot of practical and in our opinion, awesome information, what you hear on this podcast is not intended to diagnose, cure, treat or prevent any disease. It's strictly for informational purposes. So enjoy.

Hello, I'm Dr. Martin Jr.

Dr. Martin Sr.: I'm Dr. Martin senior.

Dr. Martin Jr.: And this is the Doctors in Podcast and [00:00:30] this is episode 175. And today we want to talk about a very common story or frustration that we hear about on a regular basis. It's something that we hear in our clinic. It's something that we hear when people email us questions. It's stuff that we hear on Facebook Lives or inside of our private Facebook group, and it goes something like this. So I'll introduce a fictional character, we'll call her Jane, for some reason. [00:01:00] We'll call her Jane. So Jane is tired, she's not sleeping well, she started to gain a little bit of weight. And you know what? She just can't lose it like she used to be able to lose the weight. Also noticed her hair is thinning or falling out a little bit more than it used to. Even her nail seem a little bit weaker. And then even her eyebrows are not as thick as they used to be.

So Jane goes on and looks on the Internet and soon discovers that she has a lot [00:01:30] of symptoms of a sluggish thyroid, of hypothyroidism, right? So she books an appointment with her family doctor. Her family doctor runs the typical tests, typical thyroid stuff, and it comes back and everything's normal. Everything is good. So what we want to talk about today is, how is it possible to have a lot of symptoms of a sluggish thyroid, and yet have still normal [00:02:00] thyroid blood tests? Because this is very common. This is not an isolated incident. This is something that's very common. And another scenario along the lines of that is, Jane goes through all that again, goes and gets tested and the doctor comes back, says, "Yeah, your thyroid's off a little bit. We'll put you on some thyroid meds." And they feel better for a bit. Then they get the same symptoms. And then the doctor checks their levels and they constantly have to adjust the levels [00:02:30] of medication because they can't seem to get the thyroid down pat.

So that's what we're going to talk about today. And there's three ... Listen, there's a lot of reasons why that happens, but we're going to list three big reasons why your thyroid tests are normal, even if you have thyroid symptoms. So that's what we're going to talk about. Now, before we give the three reasons, I think we have to talk first about how complex the thyroid is, and how difficult [00:03:00] it is in terms of all the things associated with thyroid. Because the thyroid is, first of all, it's a puppet. Something else, it's pulling its strings. And the thyroid has a control on every cell in your body, right?

So the way the thyroid works, and we've shared this with you before, so we're going to go through this quickly because that's not really the point of this episode here, is your brain, specifically your hypothalamus secretes a hormone, which is TRH. And TRH goes to your pituitary [00:03:30] and then gets your pituitary to create a hormone that then tells your thyroid to get to work. And of course that hormone is TSH, thyroid stimulating hormone-

Dr. Martin Sr.: That the one that they test, right? That's the most common test for the thyroid is the TSH test.

Dr. Martin Jr.: And so then your thyroid gets going. So your thyroid then makes a bunch of hormones, right? So TSH stimulate your thyroid, your thyroid makes a bunch of hormones. Specifically [00:04:00] it makes T4 it makes T3, T2, T1 and a little bit of Calcitonin. And that's how it works. However, as we've mentioned, every cell in your body is influenced, or affected by your thyroid, and the active hormone that your thyroid makes, that influences cell is the T3. So T3 is the active form in a sense of the thyroid. But when the pituitary tells your thyroid to get to work, 90% [00:04:30] of the hormones made by the thyroid is in the form of T4. So there's another step that has to occur. T4 has to be converted into T3

Dr. Martin Sr.: Where does that happen?

Dr. Martin Jr.: That happens in the liver. So the liver, think of all the things that can affect the liver, can affect the way you convert T4 to T3. So the reason why we went through that is just to give you an idea of the complexity of the thyroid, and how involved it is, and how a [00:05:00] problem with the Hypothalamus, the pituitary, the thyroid, T4, the liver ... There's so many things, that's not including the other stuff in the body, that can block how your thyroid works. Right, which we'll talk about in a second. But the thyroid is very complicated.

Dr. Martin Sr.: And your thyroid is your gas pedal, and your thyroid is your furnace. I mean your body won't regulate itself properly. It will not be able to get into its highest level of octane [00:05:30] energy if the thyroid is not running up to snuff. And the other one is your body temperature. And this is why so many people that have trouble with their thyroid, even though they don't think they have any kind of disease of it, is their body temperatures, especially with their hands and feet, nose, they're very cold, right? They just have a hard time meeting up. And of course the thyroid can go on the other end too, of course. And that's more rare is where they get hyperthyroidism, [00:06:00] and then they're not well. They could get tachycardia, where the heart starts to race and their body temperature goes up. But generally it's the other end.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Yeah,  probably the 80/20 rule. At least more than that. Even-

Dr. Martin Sr.: Probably 90/10.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Yeah. Majority of the people complain that their thyroid starts to slow down. So all right. So let's just spend the rest of the time talking about those big three reasons why tests are normal, even if you have thyroid symptoms. [00:06:30] The first reason is, and we'll explain this in more detail, is that the thyroid is tiny. The thyroid is tiny. Now before we go any further, we like to use the example of ricin. Ricin is a poison that's found naturally in castor beans. It's possibly the most deadly poison.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Don't need much.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Well, yeah. Exactly. In fact, a dosage of rice in the size of a grain of rice [00:07:00] will kill you. And that's how powerful ricin is. Well, the thyroid is also very powerful and it's tiny. The thyroid weighs less than 25 grams. To give you an idea how much it weighs, 25 grams, a double A battery weighs 24 grams. So your thyroid ways about the weight of a AA battery.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Not big.

Dr. Martin Jr.: It's tiny yet it controls every system and every cell in your body. [00:07:30] So it's extremely powerful little thing. So even though it's tiny, it can directly influence every cell in your body. And obviously it's so tiny, yet it affects your energy, it affects your weight and affects your healthy skin, healthy hair, your brain. So you can imagine. So you would think that in order to control every cell in your body that the thyroid has to make a lot of thyroid hormone, right? It must make [00:08:00] a dump truck full of T4, T3, T2, T1. It must make a dump truck full. It must be pumping out thyroid hormone 24/7 at massive amounts to control everything on your body.

We know that's not true. That's not true. The thyroid only secretes about one teaspoon of thyroid hormone over a full year. One teaspoon of thyroid hormone production in a year, [00:08:30] and it controls every system in your body, which tells you first, how powerful the thyroid gland is and how things are regulated at a micro level. So the problem with that is, any kind of ... Think about that. Microscopic change in the amount that that thyroid produces can cause every symptom in the book. That's very hard to track. So the thyroid is very tiny. [00:09:00] It doesn't produce a lot of hormones and any kind of slight change can have a drastic effect. And here's the thing, a slight change may affect you more than it affects me. I may need a bigger change for it to affect me.

And when you get your testing, they have this range and if you're inside that range are fine. But what happens if a smaller effect hurts me more than it hurts you? And we're both within the normal range, but I was a little higher [00:09:30] and I'm a little lower in the normal range and I'm getting thyroid symptoms. Because, does it matter what the range says if I'm getting the thyroid symptoms? Of course not. I'm getting thyroid symptoms and that's-

Dr. Martin Sr.: It's amazing how many women that we hear from, and we see women because they're much more susceptible to it. And I'm sure we're going to touch on that as we go into some of the reasons why they're testing can be normal. But let me just say that [00:10:00] women are very instinctive when it comes to their own bodies, much more than men. Men rarely have a clue, right? They don't really care as much. I'm not saying all men are like that, but most men are, at least in my experience, whenever they come to see me, they'd been dragged in. Their health is secondary to most men. Unless they get scared skinny by their doctor, most men, "I feel good and nothing's too dramatic."

But women [00:10:30] are much more sensitive to what's going on in their body. It's amazing their instincts, that they go, "You know what? That's thyroid. And I keep telling my doctor. It's thyroid, right? And that my doctor said, well, yeah, but your tests are normal. I don't care what my tests are normal. I don't feel good. And I think it's my thyroid." Thousands of times I hear that because women are smart, and they understand that-

Dr. Martin Jr.: And they know, like you said. They know what's off.

Dr. Martin Sr.: I know what my hair's like. I know what my weight-

Dr. Martin Jr.: They know [00:11:00] they understand that. They know that their hair is falling out more, or that it's thinner. They know their skin's drier than it used to be. They understand-

Dr. Martin Sr.: Their nails. They look at their nails, they under ... They know what ... I don't know what my nails are like. I never look there. But women, I mean, come on. Anyway, it's interesting because they know they're not well.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Yeah. And that's why they get frustrated when they're told that everything's normal. Right? Alright, so the first reason is how small the thyroid [00:11:30] is. The second reason why your tests can be normal, even though you have thyroid symptoms, has to do with the term called subclinical hypothyroidism. And we'll get into that. So first of all, let's just talk about this word subclinical. Now, according to Dr. Google, I wanted to get the very straight definition of subclinical. Subclinical basically means anything related to or denoting a disease, which is not severe enough to present definite or readily [00:12:00] observable symptoms.

So subclinical means, you're having symptoms but not enough to move the needle on the blood testing. Right? And here's the thing. When it comes to the thyroid, subclinical hypothyroidism can exist for seven years before lab numbers are affected. So you can have thyroid symptoms for seven years before anything shows up on blood testing. So think of what that, seven years of fatigue, seven [00:12:30] years of weight gain, seven years of poor sleep, dry skin, hair falling out, all those things, before it shows up on a blood test.

Now here's the question. Should you have to suffer with these symptoms for that long, just waiting for your numbers to change? It sounds ridiculous, but that's the very same thing that many women go through when their thyroid starts to slow down because it's subclinical. And this is what I want to hammer home the point on this is, [00:13:00] so why does it take so long for those blood numbers to change? And it's because of something that's called receptor site sensitivity. And that's important to understand. So I'll explain that.

Now, imagine every cell in your body has little receptors, like little antenna. And what they do is they transmit the signal from the hormone outside the cell to inside the cell. So you can have a [00:13:30] normal amount of hormone circulating in your blood, but the hormone isn't having the same effect on the cell because the receptors are damaged. The receptors are no longer working the way they should. And that happens with the thyroid. But by the way, we talk about this all the time, the same thing happens with insulin.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah, absolutely.

Dr. Martin Jr.: The cells become resistant to a certain extent to insulin. Well, the cells stop. They don't respond to [00:14:00] thyroid hormone the same way. And here's what's interesting. One of the major ways that receptors or those little intend to get damaged is inflammation. And what's a major cause of inflammation in the body? We call it an accelerant all the time.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah. Cortisol.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Cortisol. A problem with your adrenals can destroy your thyroid gland.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: In a sense that it destroys the receptors and how they work, meaning [00:14:30] you have normal thyroid hormone levels according to your blood tests, but your cells aren't responding to it. That's receptor site sensitivity. That's a problem. So you will have normal tests for now, because things change.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Eventually, they will come out-

Dr. Martin Jr.: For seven years you can have normal tests.

Dr. Martin Sr.: That's a long time to wait.

Dr. Martin Jr.: And that's what's so frustrating about it. And the symptoms can get worse over time, but yet you're still producing enough of the hormone, or it's [00:15:00] been such a microscopic change that it doesn't even register or it's just still within a normal range on the blood test. So you can see why that's frustrating, which is why we talk a lot about even the effect that cortisol, so stress kills your thyroid. If you're stressed long enough, or your body has a cortisol problem for a long time, your thyroid, especially if you're a woman, your thyroid is going to be a victim. We wrote a book on this years ago, 'The serial killers: Two hormones that want you [00:15:30] dead.' And elevated cortisol is a serial killer. One of the victims is to absolute your thyroid. It absolutely will take your thyroid with it.

So that's what happens. So that's the second reason. So the first was your thyroid is small, it's tiny, secretes a teaspoon of thyroid hormone a year. And the second one is subclinical hypothyroidism. You can have a receptor, you're a little antenna on the cells can be damaged. You're making enough hormone, but your cells aren't getting it. So it's reacting like you're not getting any or not getting [00:16:00] enough, and you have sluggish thyroid symptoms. So that's the second reason.

Now, the third reason is something that you and I have talked about a lot, and that's what we call the metabolic storm, because the thyroid-

Dr. Martin Sr.: Not independent.

Dr. Martin Jr.: The person thinks they have a thyroid problem and they do. But they're actually in a metabolic storm, meaning they also have a problem with their adrenals and they also have a problem with their ovaries. And I know a lot of women are saying, "Yeah, but I don't have my ovaries anymore." Well then you definitely [00:16:30] have a problem with estrogen, and progesterone, which is what we're talking about when we talk about ovaries. But you're in the metabolic storm. And when you're in the metabolic storm, you have a problem with your adrenals, specifically, cortisol. You have a problem with your thyroid hormones and you have a problem with estrogen, progesterone. And it's creating this real hormonal problem and it's given you a ton of symptoms but not in enough in a sense to change the blood work on your thyroid because the adrenals are equally [00:17:00] involved and estrogen and progesterone are equally involved.

So they're actually in something that we call the metabolic storm. And we've talked a lot over the years about this. Over the years. We'd call it the Bermuda Triangle of hormones. You've talked a ton about that over the years and a lot of videos, but that's the third way and it's because it's the way they're connected those three. If you have a thyroid, a longstanding thyroid, you're going to have adrenals and ovary issues. Same thing. You can start off [00:17:30] with a lot of adrenal issues, a lot of stress, and as I mentioned, it can kill your thyroid. It can also affect how you make your estrogen and your progesterone. So it's a mess.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah, it's a mess. And the thing is, unless you're thinking outside the box, unfortunately a lot of times is that doctors of all kinds just never pick up on that. People fall through the cracks with all these symptoms. And because they're not [00:18:00] looked at holistically in this metabolic storm or in the Bermuda Triangle, like you said, ovaries, the adrenals and insulin. Insulin, it's a food hormone and that can mess up. That's part of that storm too. So you've got to take it all into consideration when you look at the thyroid, because the thyroid, it's the orchestra leader. It really is. It's at the top of the food chain and it's the one [00:18:30] that it better be working otherwise you're in deep trouble. But it doesn't act independently of the things we talked about. And this is why a lot of people fall through the cracks for sure.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Here's the thing, we'll wrap up this episode by just kind of ... So if you have all these thyroid symptoms and your testing is normal or you have to keep adjusting your thyroid levels, there's a good chance that one of those three things are involved. [00:19:00] There's no question. And here's the thing on our website, we have a metabolic storm program that we've had for the last little bit. It's a video program, and a lot of women have gone through it. And the testimonials that we get of women going through this program and how it's helped them with their hormones and feeling better and getting her energy back, is unbelievable. It's completely a free program. You just got to go to our website and it's on our homepage and just sign up for it and watch [00:19:30] the videos.

And we talk a lot more about hormones in that video series. So that's one thing you can do. And also here's the question, and if you've been with us for while you know what this question is going to be. Here's the question that you have to be able to answer. When was the last time you felt fantastic, first of all. And how do you feel? If you have a lot of thyroid symptoms, then you want to address your thyroid nutritionally with nutrients, with diet, [00:20:00] because your thyroid is telling you it's a problem. It's flashing. The thyroid is telling you when there's a problem. You have thyroid symptoms for a reason. It doesn't necessarily matter what the blood testing is saying. There's still a lot you can do from a natural standpoint to help fix that issue.

Again, hormones are complicated, but you've been around dealing with them for a long time. We've tried to keep it as simple as possible. So we know we give a ton of information, which is why there's a lot of ways that you can get [00:20:30] ahold of us if you have questions. Again, we want to thank you for listening and have a great day.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Thanks for listening to the Doctors in Podcast from If you have any questions, you can reach us at the If you're a newsletter subscriber, you can hit to our website and sign up for free. We also have a private Facebook group that you can join. It's a community of awesome people. Finally, I do a Facebook [00:21:00] Live every Thursday morning at 8:30. Join us again next week for a new episode.

Feb 28, 2019

The American Heart Association recently published a report saying 48% of American adults have cardiovascular disease.

They define cardiovascular disease as having any of the following:

Coronary Heart Disease

Heart Failure


High Blood Pressure

In this episode we talk about the REAL reasons why half the adult population have cardiovascular disease.

We also share THREE ways you can lower your risk of heart disease.

Feb 21, 2019

In this episode we continue our discussion on FATIGUE.

Remember...Low energy means your body's check engine light is on...

Your body is trying to tell you something.

Which is why we wanted to share with you the BIGGEST causes of fatigue.

Last week we talked about the effect your thyroid, adrenals, and estrogen has on your energy levels. In this podcast we dive into Insulin, B12, Vitamin D3, and Magnesium.

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Dr. Martin, Jr.: You're listening to The Doctor Is in podcast from Although we share a lot of practical, and in our opinion, awesome information, what you hear on this podcast is not intended to diagnose, cure, treat, or prevent any disease. It's strictly for informational purposes, so enjoy.

Hello, I'm Dr. Martin, Jr.

Dr. Martin, Sr.: And I'm Dr. Martin, Sr.

Dr. Martin, Jr.: This is The Doctor Is In [00:00:30] podcast. This is episode 173. Today we're going to continue the discussion that we started on the last episode. If you haven't listened to the last episode, I would strongly recommend that you go back, listen to that episode because we talked about the first major cause of fatigue in women. The idea of these two episodes, this one and the one before, was talking about the three causes of exhaustion or fatigue in women. The idea is these three causes [00:01:00] that we're discussing really cover a majority of the issues that women have when it comes to fatigue.

Last week, we talked about the idea of the Bermuda Triangle of hormones, the thyroid, the adrenals, and the ovaries, and how most women that are exhausted, don't just have a thyroid problem, or don't just have adrenal fatigue, or don't just have an issue with estrogen or progesterone. [00:01:30] They have a problem with all three.

Dr. Martin, Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin, Jr.: It's because those three areas specifically, the thyroid, the adrenals, and ovaries, are so connected that if one goes bad ... so, it can start off as a problem ... A lot of people start off with an issue with their thyroid. They notice some thyroid symptoms. They get tested, nothing shows up, but they notice a difference in their thyroid, and then all of a sudden, they start to get some symptoms. They look them up, and they're like, "Ah, it's my adrenals." [00:02:00] Then it's, "I've got some estrogen issues." And they don't quite understand what's going on, and it's because one can lead to the other.

You can start off with adrenal fatigue and that wrecks your thyroid and your ovaries. Or you could start off with an estrogen issue, and that's going to wreck your thyroid and your adrenals, because they're so connected. Too much estrogen will block how your thyroid functions. A slow thyroid will lead to estrogen dominance. Adrenals will steal-

Dr. Martin, Sr.: You can't win either way.

Dr. Martin, Jr.: That's right. The adrenals will steal progesterone from [00:02:30] your ovaries, and the ovaries will deplete ... It's amazing how those three things are connected. Most women who are exhausted, are in what we call a metabolic storm. It's a problem with their thyroid, adrenals, and ovaries.

Again, if you haven't heard the first episode, go back, listen to the previous episode. We talk a lot more in depth about the three areas involved in the Bermuda Triangle of hormones, and we go into that with a lot more detail. Today, we want to talk about part [00:03:00] two and three, the two other big causes, which are high-circulating insulin and deficiencies.

Now, you and I talk a lot about high-circulating insulin. It's something that we spend a lot of time on, so if you've heard us talk about this, you can tune us out for the next few minutes because we're just going to ... Again, we get so many new listeners and so many new people that discover us every week that we can't assume that they've heard this before, so we're just going to talk a little bit about this. [00:03:30] Again, if you've been with us for a while ...

Dr. Martin, Sr.: Repeat and rinse.

Dr. Martin, Jr.: Yeah. We give you permission to do something else in the meantime. You can listen to us in the background here.

Again, here's the thing. We get a lot of questions about blood sugar. We get a lot of questions, especially the age group that we deal with, a lot of blood sugar issues. Diabetes is exploding. It's climbing up the charts of top killers. It's climbing up the charts for everything. Right? Here's the thing. Your blood sugar levels [00:04:00] are so tightly regulated, extremely tightly regulated. The reason for that is that blood glucose can be ... it can be deadly. If your blood sugar levels go too high it can kill you. If it goes too low it can kill you. So your blood sugar levels are very tightly regulated.

Every time you eat food, it messes up your regulation of blood sugar. What happens as you eat food, it's broken down into glucose. That causes a [00:04:30] surge of blood glucose. Your blood sugar levels go up. Because, as we just said, high blood sugar is deadly, your body can't leave it that way. So you either burn it off for energy, or your body then says, "All right, blood sugar is up. We got to bring it down." It secretes insulin. Insulin comes along and insulin is what they call a partitioning hormone. It takes it and it sends it to different locations. It either stores it in the muscles, stores it in the liver, or [00:05:00] when those are full, stores it in fat cells.

Dr. Martin, Sr.: Yeah, and has an unlimited capacity to make fat cells that stink in insulin.

Dr. Martin, Jr.: And here's the thing. Your ability to make fat cells is for the sole purpose of keeping your blood sugar levels normal. That's it. Your body puts on fat to protect you from getting diabetes. It will do that for as long as it can, and then eventually, it can't even do that fast [00:05:30] enough, and you end up with elevated blood sugar levels. That's when you end up with diabetes.

Now, some people have the ability to store a lot more fat before they become diabetic. Some people don't have the ability to store fat so they are diabetic and they are not even obese or anything. They're not ... they just-

Dr. Martin, Sr.: A skinny diabetic. It happens a lot.

Dr. Martin, Jr.: Their liver gets full. They got fatty liver, always, because their liver is stuffed. And their muscle glycogen [00:06:00] is stuffed but they can't put on fat cells anywhere else so their blood sugar levels get elevated.

But that's how important your body views blood sugar, that it will put on fat to protect you. It takes the glucose out of the blood, turns it into glycogen, and stores it in muscle, liver, or basically turns it into fat and stores it away into fat cells, right? That's what's happening.

So you can imagine, every time you eat, your blood sugar levels go up. Now, if you're eating high- [00:06:30] processed sugars and crap like vegetable oils, your blood sugar levels are going to shoot up fast. You secrete a ton of insulin. You bring your blood sugars back down. Then you're hungry and-

Dr. Martin, Sr.: What goes up must come down.

Dr. Martin, Jr.: You do it over and over again. But here's the thing. After a while, your body ... We've given this analogy before. Eventually your body stops listening to insulin. What happens, [00:07:00] your body has only one thing it can do. It makes more insulin. It's the equivalent of me giving instructions to somebody and they're not listening, or they listen at first but then they stop listening. What ends up happening? Parents know this. They raise their voice. If they don't respond then, a lot of parents, what do they do? They go one more level up. They start yelling.

Well, that's what happens with insulin. You need a little bit of insulin to lower your blood sugar, and everything's great. After a while, the body ignores it or doesn't respond [00:07:30] as well so your body says, "All right, I'm going to give you a little bit more insulin now." Now you secrete even more insulin. That works for a while, then eventually, your cells ignore that. Then you just start making way more insulin. That's what we call high-circulating insulin.

What happens after a while ... and that can vary differently depending on somebody ... how long they've been eating bad foods for, how little they exercise, how little muscle they have, because the more muscle you have the more glycogen [00:08:00] you can store. I mean, there's a lot of factors, but some people can get high-circulating insulin pretty quickly. Some people it takes a long time to develop it. But eventually, they end up with too much insulin circulating all the time.

When that happens, that's where the problems go, because high-circulating insulin causes a problem in every organ in your body. And everybody reacts differently. Some people get diabetic. Some people get Alzheimer's/dementia. Some people end up with skin issues. Some people end up with joint issues. [00:08:30] Some people end up with heart disease. We'll talk about in an upcoming episode about half the country is, according to the American Heart Association, has heart disease. We'll talk about that coming up.

But regardless, they have high-circulating insulin. Here's the thing. When you have high-circulating insulin and you end up with a condition that we call insulin resistance, a lot of people do, you end up with lower energy. Think about it ... from a lot of different reasons why. One, your blood sugar levels are unstable. You've [00:09:00] got high glucose, a ton of insulin. You're inefficient. Your body's ability to efficiently make, store, burn, everything, it's out of whack. Your engine is messed up.

Also, high-circulating insulin has an effect on your mitochondria, which is the battery packs of your cells. Even you're not efficient at making energy anymore. You don't make as much of it. Your mitochondria don't function as well. Your-

Dr. Martin, Sr.: You've got a dirty fuel.

Dr. Martin, Jr.: Yeah. Exactly. [00:09:30] So then all of a sudden, it's like your engine is, like you said, you got a dirty fuel, dirty engine, and you push on the gas in a car that has ... and then it's sluggish. The spark plugs aren't doing their job. There's a lot of stuff going on.

Unfortunately this is so common. It's so common, because as I mentioned, you can get a problem eating too much sugar. Just high-sugar diet can do it. High-carb diet can do it. We always talk about finding your carb tolerance, because everybody [00:10:00] can tolerate a different amount of carbohydrates.

Dr. Martin, Sr.: Yeah, some people hardly any.

Dr. Martin, Jr.: Again, it depends on ... A person who is lifting weights or is more active, and they build more muscle, they generally can tolerate more carbs. We all have a different amount. Some can tolerate more, some can tolerate less, but once you get above your tolerance level, and you start to make too much insulin all the time ... so that's another cause, right? But at the end of the day, this is very, very common.

Dr. Martin, Sr.: Yeah, because it has a big effect on your energy. Absolutely.

Dr. Martin, Jr.: [00:10:30] Unfortunately it's also tied in to the first cause of energy for women, which is the metabolic storm, because insulin can hurt your thyroid. Insulin can hurt your adrenals. And insulin can definitely hurt your ovaries. You can start off with an insulin problem and end up in the metabolic storm. I mean, it's just ... It's attached. But again-

Dr. Martin, Sr.: Well, we know that insulin is a growth hormone, and so when you look at somebody with PCOS, polycystic ovarian disorder, [00:11:00] medicine ... one of its treatment for that is to actually give you metformin, which is a diabetic drug to cut off your insulin because they know it's a growth hormone, right? But again, it's crazy but this is so common today because why would insulin, for example, high-circulating insulin, be so prevalent in our society today, and women are certainly no exception to it, is because ... I mean, it's one [00:11:30] of the biggest things is the amount of sugar that's added to foods.

The average ... You know, I was showing you something off-air today that they say in the United States the average American is consuming 50 gallon of soda a year, just soda. Like 50 gallons of it. Sugar, sugar, sugar, sugars, sugars everywhere, right? An estimated 200 pounds of sugar a year, the average person in the [00:12:00] United States and Canada are consuming. Well, women are no exception to that. They're part of that group, and that just makes insulin go crazy. And then you add vegetable oils, which we don't talk about enough. That acts like a sugar in a lot of ways, too, because it just [crosstalk 00:12:18]-

Dr. Martin, Jr.: Well, it's highly inflammatory, right?

Dr. Martin, Sr.: Very inflammatory.

Dr. Martin, Jr.: It's highly inflammatory. Here's the thing. A lot of women when they end up with high-circulating insulin, like I said, it affects their hormones, but it's definitely an energy killer, [00:12:30] which is why a lot of women, once they start to correct high-circulating insulin, they feel better. Their energy comes back. They feel better. Now, if you've got a problem with a metabolic storm, you better fix that, but somebody with high-circulating insulin, and they eat below their carb tolerance, they fix that, man it's amazing how much better they feel. I mean, that's a major cause. So that's the second cause.

Now, let's talk about the third cause. We talked about the Bermuda Triangle of hormones. [00:13:00] We've talked about high-circulating insulin. And the third thing is, is that straight up deficiencies, right? The number one deficiency that we think ... Again, I mean, you could take our opinion, and you couldn't even get a-

Dr. Martin, Sr.: Hey, it's worth something.

Dr. Martin, Jr.: No, you can't even get a cup of coffee with it. You can't even get a cup of coffee with our opinion. Listen, this is our opinion, but based on what we see and hear, and talk to people ...

Dr. Martin, Sr.: And that we're right.

Dr. Martin, Jr.: Yeah, I don't want to say that, but in our opinion, the number one deficiency that [00:13:30] leads to fatigue in women is B12.

Dr. Martin, Sr.: Yeah. Very, very complex vitamin, a finicky vitamin of finicky vitamins. It's molecular. It's a huge vitamin. It really is. I was looking at the structure of B12 the other day, just going back in my old chemistry days, and look at B12 and what it looks like, it's the largest vitamin. It's like Arnold Schwarzenegger of ... I don't even know if that's a good illustration. [00:14:00] Maybe people don't remember him. But anyway, it is huge. That's a problem because that makes B12 very, very difficult, even at the best of times, to be absorbed by the body. You cannot be on any medications, any medications, in my opinion, and absorb B12 properly.

Dr. Martin, Jr.: Yeah. If you're on a medication, you have a B12 issue.

Dr. Martin, Sr.: Yeah. If you got any digestive issue at all ...

Dr. Martin, Jr.: Heartburn, bloating, gas, [00:14:30] you're not getting B12.

Dr. Martin, Sr.: You're not getting B12. You're not getting the right amount of B12.

Dr. Martin, Jr.: And the reason why you're saying that is because B12 has to get absorbed in the stomach. It needs an assist with intrinsic factor. If you have-

Dr. Martin, Sr.: A lot of people don't even have that factor.

Dr. Martin, Jr.: No, so I mean, that's the thing, right? It's very difficult, like you said, to get B12. If you're swallowing a B12 ... A lot of people take B complex, which are fine for stuff like B6 and all the other stuff, but not for B12. It has to be [00:15:00] dissolvable. It has to be injectable or sublingual. We use ... It has to be a sublingual. It has to dissolve. There's a lot of ways to get B12, but-

Dr. Martin, Sr.: And a lot of people don't eat red meat anymore.

Dr. Martin, Jr.: No, I mean listen-

Dr. Martin, Sr.: Women love chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken.

Dr. Martin, Jr.: Yep.

Dr. Martin, Sr.: I kind of tease them at the office. I said, "I bet you you're eating chicken and salad, or salad and chicken." Right? They don't eat a lot of red meat anymore. Red meat's got a bad rap. We've talked about that in the past. But, [00:15:30] if you're not eating red meat, like you ain't getting B12. It's just as simple as that. Don't try and fool yourself. It's not in the plant kingdom, not enough for a mouse in the [crosstalk 00:15:40].

Dr. Martin, Jr.: Well, unless you want to eat oysters all day, but then again, who wants to eat oysters all day? And here's the thing, so B12, one of the issues with B12 ... A lot of people are like, "Oh, I get my blood tested and my B12 is fine." But again, here's the thing, here's the thing. If I come and get tested and my number is [00:16:00] like X, well that might be enough B12 for me but that might not be enough for somebody else. Each person has an optimal level of B12. They could be at a number and then it decreases and they get their blood tested and it's like well, they're still within normal range, but it's not optimal for them. It always is how do you feel, right? B12 is difficult. The testing, in our opinion is-

Dr. Martin, Sr.: I just want to bring you back to some history because in the 1950s of whatever, if someone was low [00:16:30] in energy, almost invariably, without blood tests ... I just know this for a fact because of my father and your grandfather ... B12 given in shots was probably the number one medication, ahead of aspirin and everything else. If you had low energy, you were getting a B12 shot. It was so common. Family doctors, they ... I mean, it was nothing. They had B12 in [00:17:00] their doctors' bags. Now it's unheard of. It's almost like you ... To get a B12 shot from a family physician, is almost like they just don't do it anymore.

Dr. Martin, Jr.: Well, they'll check your numbers and say, "Oh, you're fine."

Dr. Martin, Sr.: Yeah, and it's just because it's ... It's changed, right? There's been a big shift away from B12 and yet, today, there's a huge, huge deficiency in B12. This is one thing that people should really consider, that [00:17:30] our listeners really consider that that ... If you're tired, you're probably low in B12. It's so common. You have no idea.

Dr. Martin, Jr.: And it has a major effect on the brain.

Dr. Martin, Sr.: Oh, yeah.

Dr. Martin, Jr.: A lot of depression, anxiety ... I mean, it has a major-

Dr. Martin, Sr.: You're yawning a lot?

Dr. Martin, Jr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin, Sr.: People that they're always yawning, that's ... Your body's sucking up for oxygen, right? A lot of times that is just, you know what? Your B12. Again, I love what you said because [00:18:00] what is your optimal levels of B12? We've been talking about this in the past, of testosterone for men, or whatever, and yeah, I'm normal. Yeah, but you should be at optimal, because you'll do a lot better at optimal than you will at normal levels. It's the same thing with B12.

I've found over the years ... and this is my clinical experience ... is that I find that when I top up B12 in patients, when I top their levels up and get [00:18:30] at their optimal levels, and they often ... You know, it's amazing how much they ... patients know themselves, because once they start taking B12 and a couple of weeks, and they say, well ... If they missed it for a day, they noticed it. I say, "Well, there you go. There's your answer. Your body's talking to you. Obviously you need that amount of B12 for now at least." They feel better. They've got more energy. But B12, yes, I like it that we mentioned that [00:19:00] at the top of the list of deficiencies, because I really think ... And you know? Metabolically, too, just ... I know I'm on a little tangent on B12. But, metabolically, it really has a lot to do with hormones. Even your thyroid needs B12. Your ovaries, ladies, need B12. It is a vitamin of hormones.

And so, if you're stressed out, guess which vitamin is being sucked out of your body. Cortisol will suck your [00:19:30] B12 out of your body. They do go together. So yes, B12 is essential for energy.

Dr. Martin, Jr.: There was a study done a while ago. They looked at 3,000 men and women. What I found interesting is they found that 40% of the people in the study were in the low normal range already. 40%. And then even a percentage was below that, as well, but 40% of the people were in the low normal range. Think about that. [00:20:00] If you have low normal blood B12, you're low in B12.

Dr. Martin, Sr.: Yeah, you're low in B12.

Dr. Martin, Jr.: Don't call it ... It's just that the range, in my opinion, has to be tightened up quite a bit, but they ... Again, we talked about this in the last episode about how they determine ... It's like the 95 percentile. If 95% of the people are in this range, that's normal. 2.5% above it, that's high. 2.5% below ... So, if people's blood B12 levels are changing, the slide scales. The range gets bigger. [00:20:30] Then the normal gets bigger. You see that in men and testosterone. The testosterone range for men now, in a lab test, is like ... What is it now? 200 to 1100?

Dr. Martin, Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin, Jr.: That's a big ... Because 95% of the population ...

Dr. Martin, Sr.: That's two football fields ...

Dr. Martin, Jr.: It fits within that range.

Dr. Martin, Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin, Jr.: Some men, they can have a level of 500 and they still have symptoms of testosterone. The same thing with everything. So again, the question is how you feel. That's a big deficiency.

Another big one as well, is vitamin D3. A lot of energy [00:21:00] processes ... Well, first of all, vitamin D will ... It basically enhances the activity of your mitochondria, those little battery packs.

Dr. Martin, Sr.: They need D.

Dr. Martin, Jr.: They need vitamin D.

Dr. Martin, Sr.: Your immune system needs D.

Dr. Martin, Jr.: If you're low in vitamin D3, which again I-

Dr. Martin, Sr.: I never heard of that vitamin before. [crosstalk 00:21:16].

Dr. Martin, Jr.: Yeah, I know. I think if they did a search of vitamin D on our website, it'd probably return like 3,000 search queries. I mean, we talk about vitamin D3-

Dr. Martin, Sr.: Yeah, but it's essential, you know? We don't apologize. I mean, look-

Dr. Martin, Jr.: No. And [00:21:30] we've done episodes, and we've done a lot of newsletters over the years on the effect that D has everywhere. If you don't have normal D, you're not going to have normal energy. Let me just ... We're almost out of time, but let me just ... Every once in a while, you'll get like 500 ... Now, this is an exaggeration ... You'll get like 500 good studies on vitamin D ...

Dr. Martin, Sr.: And then you get-

Dr. Martin, Jr.: And then one bad one ...

Dr. Martin, Sr.: Yeah. The media is all over it.

Dr. Martin, Jr.: And then that bad one gets all the media. I mean, look it-

Dr. Martin, Sr.: Talk about fake news.

Dr. Martin, Jr.: Oh, listen, [00:22:00] a study came out recently talking about even WebMD, which like WebMD, for them to print something positive about vitamin D, I'm sure how to go through three levels of editorial corrections and the president of WebMD himself, probably he or she had to approve it. It kills them. They talked about a study showing the cancer-protective effect of vitamin D levels, right? I'm sure that killed them to write it.

Dr. Martin, Sr.: Oh yeah. They didn't like it.

Dr. Martin, Jr.: At the end of the day, vitamin [00:22:30] D is essential, obviously. Most people are deficient in vitamin D. The amount of vitamin D you need varies. I take 8,000 or so international units in the wintertime, because for me, personally ...

Dr. Martin, Sr.: You need it.

Dr. Martin, Jr.: That's what my body needs.

Dr. Martin, Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin, Jr.: Everybody's different. Everybody has a different amount.

Dr. Martin, Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin, Jr.: Again, I think, and I think research shows this, the more insulin resistant you are, the more vitamin D deficient you become, and even your ability to take vitamin D [00:23:00] when you're in the sun decreases. That's a theory I have. Regardless, a lot of people are vitamin D-

Dr. Martin, Sr.: And you're not going to go wrong with vitamin D.

Dr. Martin, Jr.: No.

Dr. Martin, Sr.: You know? We live in northern Ontario, and one thing ... You know what the window does? I'll tell you what a window does. It blocks your UV radiation.

Dr. Martin, Jr.: Yeah, you're not getting it.

Dr. Martin, Sr.: What does that mean?

Dr. Martin, Jr.: You can't see it.

Dr. Martin, Sr.: Because even when the sun is out, and you might be ... Am I ever enjoying that sun because [00:23:30] it's coming through the window in the afternoon?

Dr. Martin, Jr.: Well, the sun might feel nice and warm-

Dr. Martin, Sr.: Yeah, it feels-

Dr. Martin, Jr.: You're not getting your vitamin D.

Dr. Martin, Sr.: No, you're not getting your vitamin D from it.

Dr. Martin, Jr.: Listen, we're almost out of time. Let's just talk about one more common deficiency, which is magnesium. Again, magnesium is so essential for energy production. Over 300 biochemical processes use magnesium. It's a very, very common deficiency. In fact, most people with low energy are low in B12, low in vitamin D3, and low in magnesium. [00:24:00] Typically, that's kind of like a triangle or like-

Dr. Martin, Sr.: Yeah, the trinity there.

Dr. Martin, Jr.: The deficiency triangle of ...

Dr. Martin, Sr.: Hey, maybe we should write a book about that.

Dr. Martin, Jr.: Yeah. Those three. So if you're struggling ... And let's just wrap up with this, all right? If you are struggling with energy or fatigue, you're exhausted, it's a good chance it's your hormonal issues, like we talked about, the Bermuda Triangle of hormones. There's a good chance you've got high-circulating insulin, and there's a good chance you're deficient in the three nutrients that we just talked about. [00:24:30] Those three ... Those got to be corrected.

Again, over the last two episodes we shared a ton of information, and we get a lot of questions on this, so if you have questions you can email us. There's a lot of ways to get a hold of us. Also, we have a private Facebook group that ... It's a fantastic audience. I mean, it's a fantastic community. They're answering each other's questions, and they're helping each other out, and they're encouraging each other. It's awesome. Go to our website. You can join that group from there. But again, we want to thank you for listening [00:25:00] and have a great day.

Dr. Martin, Sr.: Thanks for listening to The Doctor Is In podcast from If you have any questions you can reach us at If you're not a newsletter subscriber, you can head to our website and sign up for free. We also have a private Facebook group that you can join. It's a community of awesome people. Finally, I do a Facebook live every Thursday morning at 8:30. Join [00:25:30] us again next week for a new episode.

Feb 14, 2019

In this episode we talk about the BIG causes of fatigue in women. Is your energy where it should be?

Many of you are exhausted...

Yet don't sleep well...wake up tired...or both. Many of you are frustrated because you haven't been able to find answers.

In this podcast (PART 1) we talk about FATGUE...

Specifically the BIG causes of exhaustion in women...

  • Thyroid
  • Adrenals
  • Estrogen
  • Insulin
  • B12
  • D3
  • Magnesium

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Hello, I'm Dr. Martin Jr.

Dr. Martin Sr.: And I'm Dr. Martin Sr.

Dr. Martin Jr.: And this is the Doctor Is In podcast, and this is episode 172. [00:00:30] Today it's gonna be part one of a two-part series that we're titling The Three Biggest Causes Of Fatigue In Women.

One of the things that, I would say the biggest symptom that people get a hold of us for is fatigue. It's a frustrating thing. Many of you that have been with us for a while know our history, and know how we kind of went off in the direction that [00:01:00] we are in now. Of course, it has to do with my mother, your wife, and her initial symptoms were just a tremendous amount of fatigue.

It's funny, we have a good old video on our website on a documentary that was done, and my mother was in that documentary. I think it was in the ... was it the '80s?

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah. Late '80s.

Dr. Martin Jr.: So I mean, it looks like an '80s video with the hairstyles. I get a kick out of watching it. I remember the '80s. It's [00:01:30] interesting. But that fatigue, we get so emails and so many questions about fatigue. What we wanted to do in this next couple of episode is try to ... We're big fans of what we call the 80/20 rule. We want to give the three biggest causes of fatigue, and they pretty much would cover at least 80% of the people that get a hold of us for fatigue.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Oh yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: If you're listening and you're exhausted, [00:02:00] one of the questions we like to ask people is, when was the last time you felt fantastic? When's the last time? And you always-

Dr. Martin Sr.: I scale it up because I always ask 'em, "Okay, I'm 10 out of 10," and most days I really am. I'm very thankful about that. But I say, "Okay compared to that, 10 being me," and they know me in the office. I'm jumping around, and I'm pretty, I get pretty excited pretty quickly. "Okay, you're 10 out of 10." "And what are you?" And then I get the number, [00:02:30] right? Twos and threes, and minus zero, and minus 10, and barely functioning. I get a lot of that. So it's the first question that I ask. It's always that, because I wanna know what their energy levels are, and the vast majority of people that come in, yep that's ... I mean, they might have other issues, but that's certainly part of it.

Dr. Martin Jr.: It's a symptom for so many issues.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah. Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Dr. Martin Jr.: And that's what we wanna cover. So we could've titled this just as easily The Three Main Causes Of Exhaustion [00:03:00] In Women, Three Main Causes Of Fatigue, Three Main Causes Of Chronic Low Energy. I mean everybody goes through a period of time where they may feel a little low energy, the body might be fighting something off. But I'm talking about somebody who is tired everyday. They go to bed tired. They either sleep or they don't sleep, most of the time they're not sleeping.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Dr. Martin Jr.: They're tired in the morning. If they do get a good nights sleep, they're still tired. They're just exhausted. And think of the effect that, and we hear this, [00:03:30] it has on their life, their family life, economic life, their marriage, their relationships. I mean, when somebody is exhausted it is almost impossible for them to maintain a normal day-to-day routine.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: And it's frustrating because, and here's the thing, if you and I are out playing a sport and you twist your ankle, you could wrap it up, get on some crutches [00:04:00] for a bit. And if you were hobbling along somebody would come up and say "Hey, what happened to your ankle?" Cause you visibly are limping around. When it comes to things like exhaustion, most people look at ya and they can't appreciate what's really going on. Yeah, you may look tired. I remember if, talking to mom about when she was going through real exhaustion back in the, a long time ago. People [00:04:30] would, they didn't know how to handle it a lot of times. Every once in awhile somebody would come up and say, "Oh, you look so exhausted," or "You look so tired," which is not a compliment. It's not a compliment, right?

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah, and like you say, it's not visible. And just, point of what you're saying, because I see a lot of people and they say "Yeah, but I'm still doing a lot of things." The point is, is that I say "Well yeah, but you're running on fumes. And you're doing things on your personality," because if a man ... [00:05:00] Again, I don't wanna be, it's not 100%. But a lot of men when they're exhausted, they wouldn't get out of bed for the same amount of exhaustion that women have. Women are usually driven. They know they've gotta do this, this, and this and this, and they gotta get it done. So in spite of the fact that they don't feel well, they still do things.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Yeah. They manage to hold things together.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yep.

Dr. Martin Jr.: But it's definitely straining them, and a lot of times it can strain all the relationships around them because the energy's just not there. [00:05:30] Again, so that's what we wanna talk about. We wanna talk about the three main causes of exhaustion, or fatigue, in women. These three areas, as we mentioned, it's gonna cover 80% of the people that are listening. And let me just say this, it's impossible to have full energy if you have a problem in any of these areas. We'll say that right off the top.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: As an aside, it's also, I don't wanna say impossible, but it's very difficult [00:06:00] to lose weight if you have a problem in any of these areas cause these spill over to metabolism as well. And it's also very hard to have a sharp brain if you have a problem in these three areas. So these three areas will cover a lot of different areas. So if you're listening and you're frustrated because you haven't been able to find answers ... A lot of people go to their doctor for low energy, they get a lot of blood work done, and things generally come back normal generally speaking. And a lot of times people with exhaustion, [00:06:30] and the frustrating thing is a lot times they're told it's in their head or they're depressed. And here's the thing, we always tell the story of the Titanic when we talk about energy.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: The Titanic, everybody, pretty much the whole world has seen the movie. It's still one of the highest, I think it's second overall still in history of revenue. So I mean it's, everybody has seen the Titanic pretty much.

Dr. Martin Sr.: It's a fascinating story.

Dr. Martin Jr.: We're all familiar with it.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Dr. Martin Jr.: [00:07:00] We all know the end result, but most people are unaware that the Titanic had actually received a whole bunch of warnings throughout the day from other ships that were already in the direction they were going. They were already in the ice. So the Titanic knew that there were problems ahead of time, right?

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: And we all know what happened. In fact I think it was the US California, right? USS California, they were ten minutes or so ahead and they sent a [00:07:30] warning saying "It's terrible." And one of the last communications from the Titanic was from the wireless operator, and he tapped back and basically saying "Shut up. Shut up. We're tired." They were tired of hearing the warnings, and then of course the rest is history. The point of this story is, even the Titanic had warnings. It wasn't like they didn't know what they were going into. And the body does the same thing. A lot of times, one of the first warning [00:08:00] signs that our body gives us is lack of energy. And we tell people that lack of energy is like a check engine light, right?

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: A check engine light can mean a lot of things. Energy can mean a lot of things. Almost anything can cause low energy, but that's a check engine light that just went on. And you're not gonna take electrical tape and just cover up your dash, and just ignore the check engine light. And even in a car, a check engine light could [00:08:30] be nothing. It could be that you didn't tighten your gas cap, I found that out. It says to click it, and that can do it. Or it could be something serious like your engine's gonna fall apart unless you get it checked out. And energy could be the same thing.

But here's the frustrating thing when it comes to energy, it's hard to figure out why you have low energy. Traditional blood testing, unless you have anemia or something that just jumps out on the report, it is [00:09:00] very difficult to figure out why you have low energy. So that's why it's frustrating. So a lot of people are frustrated. But let me just say this, fatigue is a warning sign. Fatigue is a check engine light. There's a cause. Fatigue doesn't just happen for no reason.

Alright, so that's a long introduction. Let's talk about the three energy killers in women. So today we'll talk about as many of them as we can, and then we'll carry over next week into the next [00:09:30] episode. But we'll list them right off the top. So the three biggest energy killers in women.

The first one is the Bermuda Triangle of Hormones, which we talk about a lot, but we're gonna go into a little bit more detail about that. That's the first one. So the Bermuda Triangle of Hormones; we're talking about cortisol, we're talking about thyroid hormones, and we're talking about estrogen. But we'll come back to that. The second cause, or the second energy killer in women is high circulating insulin. That's a big cause [00:10:00] of low energy in women. And the third thing is very specific deficiencies, nutritional deficiencies that is common in women that can lead to fatigue. And we'll list, and we'll talk about those deficiencies on the next episode as well. So those are the three big headings. So it's the Bermuda Triangle of Hormones, high circulating insulin, and deficiencies.

So, let's talk about the Bermuda Triangle of Hormones. We've had a lot of names [00:10:30] for this over the years. We used to call it "The Unholy Trinity of Hormones". We kinda like the concept of the Bermuda Triangle because it's just mess.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah, it's a mess. And it's complicated, right? You get in there ... And mainstream medicine has, they've missed the boat here because they always, like you said, they look for disease. So most tests are looking for disease and not for imbalances. And if your hormones are not balanced, [00:11:00] ladies, it's complicated in the sense that you need balance. I loved your illustration, if we just talked about the thyroid for a second, I think we talked about this maybe a month ago or whatever that in a whole year you're complete amount of thyroid hormone that is secreted is what? Is it a tablespoon or less?

Dr. Martin Jr.: I think it's a teaspoon.

Dr. Martin Sr.: It's a teaspoon.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Which is amazing to think about.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah, [00:11:30] imagine the organ that sort of orchestrates that-

Dr. Martin Jr.: Yeah, the master gland in a sense, right?

Dr. Martin Sr.: The master gland, thyroid, operates on a teaspoon of-

Dr. Martin Jr.: That's how powerful the thyroid hormone is.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: And imagine trying to test it properly, when even the slightest decrease in the amount that you produce can cause major effects in the body. And some people are more [00:12:00] sensitive. Even the smaller decrease in thyroid hormone has a big effect on them. So when they get tested, it's very difficult to test the thyroid.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: And also, and this is something else a lot of people don't understand when it comes to testing. So imagine you have 100 people that get a test done. So 100 people go in, they get a test done. This is how they come up with values. So they have the 95 percentile. So 95% of the people fit in a range, and that range is normal. [00:12:30] 2.5% are below that. 2.5% is above that. And here's the thing about that, if you go somewhere and you look at 100 people, there's not 100 healthy people out there out of 100. And definitely not 95 of them are healthy.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Exactly.

Dr. Martin Jr.: So what ends up happening is, is that as the population gets sicker the blood tests, it shifts. It's like the bell curve, right?

Dr. Martin Sr.: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Dr. Martin Jr.: So 95% fit into the healthy range.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Well look at what we see in the thyroid today compared to what it used [00:13:00] to be. I mean, I can tell you exactly why, but the thing is, the laboratories have not adjusted to that at all. And this is why, when did they come out with the TSH, in the early seventies? I mean, it was the test of all tests for the thyroid. The problem is, is like you say, you can't compare the 1970s to the year 2019. Completely different, we live in a different world environmentally and nutritionally. [00:13:30] You name it, it's completely different. And this is why I always tell my patients, "Look, if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, you got all the thyroid symptoms, it's your thyroid." The lab is not, you can't rely on the lab. You have to rely on your symptoms.

Dr. Martin Jr.: No. A thyroid is, the thyroid really you have to pay attention to the symptoms. Why don't you talk a little bit about the idea of the Bermuda Triangle of Hormones? Cause women that are exhausted rarely just have a problem [00:14:00] with their thyroid, or they rarely just have a problem with cortisol or their adrenals, or rarely have a problem with their ovaries or estrogen or progesterone. It's typically the Bermuda Triangle, all three are involved. We've talked about this a lot. In fact, if you go to our website you can sign up for free and watch a course, a full video course that we did on the metabolic storm. We call it How To Repair The Bermuda Triangle Of Hormones And How To ... a lot of people have gone through that program, they feel better. You can go right to our website and [00:14:30] sign up for it. But why don't you talk a little bit about the idea of why these three hormones are connected?

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah. Women, their hormones are very very much connected to one another. So one of the biggest things, to use as an example, that we see in the office is what we call "estrogen dominance", too much estrogen. That of course is in relationship to progesterone. Okay, just for bad periods, weight gain, they don't [00:15:00] feel good, mood swings, maybe acne, and endometriosis, polycystic ovarian, you name it. Bad periods, and some patients come in and they've been like that from the day they ovulated for the very first time. And then they wonder, "Well what's that got to do with my thyroid?" Well it has everything to do with the thyroid, because when estrogen is dominant the thyroid is slowed down. The thyroid won't work at the top of its game. It's [00:15:30] very much connected to the ovaries. Of course, men, we don't have that connection.

So the thyroid, and this is where you can have hair loss and you can have ... I mean, exhausted, which we're talking about today. But when estrogen is dominant, the thyroid is effected. And then you add in your adrenals, your cortisol, your stress hormone, that's adding fuel to the fire. It's just, it's making things even more complicated.

Dr. Martin Jr.: [00:16:00] Which is why women have symptoms. A lot of times they have a hard time figuring out what's going on cause they have symptoms of all three.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Dr. Martin Jr.: So let's talk quickly, let's just go through the different parts of the Bermuda Triangle, just so that we can add a little bit of clarity to that for people. So the thing that we tell people about the thyroid is, you have to remember the thyroid is the master gland. It's tiny, it doesn't weigh much, but yet it can control every system and almost every cell in your body. It can affect hair, as you mentioned, it can affect everything. [00:16:30] When your thyroid is slow, everything slows down.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Everything slows down. But the thing about the thyroid, is that the thyroid is a puppet. It only does what your brain tells it to do, specifically your pituitary and your hypothalamus. So you have your hypothalamus that tells your pituitary that then goes and tells your thyroid to get to work. So you could have a problem in the thyroid, or you could have a problem in the pituitary, or you could have a problem in the [00:17:00] hypothalamus. And any one of those things can affect.

So think of this, how complicated this is for a second. The hypothalamus uses a hormone to tell the pituitary which uses a hormone to stimulate the thyroid which is thyroid stimulating hormone. TSH, secreted by your pituitary gland, tells your thyroid to get to work. Then your thyroid turns around and then makes T4, T3, T2, T1, and then some calcitonin. But the active form [00:17:30] of the hormone is T3, yet 90% of the hormone that is made by your thyroid gland is T4. So then T4 has to be converted into T3. So think of all of the things that can go wrong in a thyroid. It's amazing.

Even, we talked about before, something like insulin resistance can affect the thyroid. So we'll talk about that in a second, but that's the thyroid. And so the thyroid's a puppet. And here's [00:18:00] something else about the thyroid that we like to tell people: subclinical hypothyroidism, so you can have a sluggish thyroid can exist for seven years before any change in blood numbers. So you can have every symptom of thyroid, and it won't even put a dent in your lab values. So you've gotta wait seven years sometimes to see an effect in your blood.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: So I mean, it's a very frustrating experience. And it kills their energy, which is why we list it as an energy killer for women. [00:18:30] It's a very big, common one. They gain weight all over. They have hair problems, thinning eyebrows, body temperature issues, dry skin. I mean, there's so many ... You can imagine, even a typical presentation of what you see for somebody with thyroid all the time.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Well, yeah, exactly. They come in, and they "Hey Doc, I just look at food and I'm gaining weight." Why is that, right? "Hey, my hair." "I look at your hair, it looks pretty good to me." And the woman, "Oh, but look [00:19:00] at the patches," or "It's falling out. It's very dry. Look at my nails." For a woman, these things, they ... Men, we lose hair who cares, right? But for a woman, that is an important thing. But they can't, nobody can tell them why that's happening, so these are typical.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Well especially when their blood values are normal. So let's quickly talk about cortisol which is another part of this Bermuda Triangle of Hormones. Well, the same thing. The hypothalamus tells your pituitary gland to get your adrenals going, and then adrenals will secrete cortisol. [00:19:30] And here's the thing, cortisol is a cyclical circadian hormone, meaning it has a time of day when it's supposed to be higher and it has a time of day when it's supposed to be lower. Now, since cortisol will raise your blood sugar levels, will get you in that fight or flight, you want that in the morning, but you don't want that at the end of the day when you're trying to sleep.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: But somebody that has adrenal exhaustion, or they have an issue with their adrenal glands, or they've got elevated cortisol, [00:20:00] it's high all the time. And when it's high all the time, good luck. And you and I always talk about cortisol being an accelerant, meaning you add cortisol to anything it makes it worse. Cortisol to high blood pressure, it makes it worse. Cortisol to your gut, makes it worse. Cortisol to your brain, makes it worse. So I mean, this is a-

Dr. Martin Sr.: Can't focus, you can't, yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: So it's a major-

Dr. Martin Sr.: And you can't turn your brain off when you wanna go to sleep at night.

Dr. Martin Jr.: That's right. And that's-

Dr. Martin Sr.: And all of a sudden. I've had people say "I used to be a good sleeper, and now I might sleep for the first [00:20:30] hour then I'm up." And I said, "Well that's cortisol." That's what it'll do. It'll wake your brain up. You think it's 7:00 in the morning when it's 1:30 a.m.

Dr. Martin Jr.: The brain's operating, the brain's running. And cortisol will create a ton of information. But here's the thing, it kills your energy, just like a sluggish thyroid kills your energy. So cortisol will kill your energy. But then it also has a whole bunch of peripheral symptoms; craving salt and sugar, [00:21:00] the need to snack, anxiety. Anxiety is such a major symptom of elevated cortisol. Weight gain, all these things. Again, you mash the symptoms of cortisol and thyroid and they can overlap a little bit. But somebody will say "Oh I've got thyroid symptoms," "I've got adrenal symptoms. What's going on?" It's like, "Well you've got the Bermuda Triangle of Hormones going on. They're all involved."

Which brings us to the last one we wanna talk about, which is estrogen. We talk about estrogen dominance a lot. And we always get somebody in menopause, they're like "Well I'm in menopause [00:21:30] so my estrogen's low." It is low, however, estrogen dominance doesn't have to do with the amount of estrogen. It has to do with the ratio between estrogen and progesterone.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah. And that is so key to understand that, because that's why-

Dr. Martin Jr.: So they can be in menopause and still be estrogen-dominant, and it's hard. I understand it's hard for people to understand that, but it has nothing to ... Yes, your estrogen levels have declined.

Dr. Martin Sr.: That's normal.

Dr. Martin Jr.: But your progesterone has declined as well, and you have estrogen dominance. You are dominant compared to progesterone. [00:22:00] So you end up with a ton of symptoms. So you can end up with estrogen dominance if you have too much estrogen and normal progesterone, too little progesterone and normal estrogen, or too little progesterone and too much estrogen. Think about it. So there's a lot of ways you can end up with estrogen dominance, and they're gonna cause a ton of symptoms.

But here's the thing, when you are estrogen dominant it kills your energy. It also causes headaches, and acne, and fibroids, and PICOS, and [00:22:30] PMS, and mood swings, and hot flashes, and on and on and on. Now you take a woman who's exhausted, and they've got so many hormonal symptoms that they don't even know what's going on. They got thyroid, and they got adrenal, they got estrogen dominance.

And a lot of women will say "Well I don't even have my ovaries anymore." Well you can still be estrogen dominant.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: And that's a major cause of fatigue in women, is they are in what we call a "metabolic storm". They got a problem with that Bermuda Triangle [00:23:00] of Hormones. And until they fix that, they're gonna struggle with their energy. The check engine light's going on because they got a problem with their hormones, and specifically those three hormones are giving 'em major major issues. And it is probably the most common cause that we see, just because we deal a lot with hormones.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Definitely the most common cause that we would see, right?

Dr. Martin Sr.: Absolutely.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Now, time wise, we're running kinda at the end. [00:23:30] Let's do this, next episode we'll talk about the last two causes. So today we talked about the Bermuda Triangle of Hormones. And then we will talk about how to, maybe we could talk a little bit about how to fix it.

But, if what we talked about today sounds like you, go to our website, sign up for a free video course. It's a full course, ton of information, but more importantly we show you how, in our clinic and over the years, how we deal with the Bermuda [00:24:00] Triangle of Hormones. So go to our website, sign up. It's free. We get so much feedback on that program, that people go through and they love it. I mean, it answers their questions, they feel better. So I would encourage you to go do that.'

So again, we wanna thank you for listening. And have a great day.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Thanks for listening to The Doctor's In Podcast from If you have any questions, you can reach us at If you're not a newsletter subscriber, you can head to our [00:24:30] website and sign up for free. We also have a private Facebook group that you can join. It's a community of awesome people. Finally, I do a Facebook live every Thursday morning at 8:30. Join us again next week for a new episode.

Feb 7, 2019

Autoimmune diseases are 3 times more common today than they were a few decades earlier. There are also over 100 different types of autoimmune conditions. The most common ones are:

  • Celiac
  • Hashimoto's Disease (Thyroid)
  • Lupus
  • MS
  • Asthma
  • Inflammatory Bowel Disease
  • Psoriasis
  • Rheumatoid Arthritis
  • Type-1 Diabetes
  • ALS

In this episode we talk about 5 big causes of autoimmune disorders. We talk about chemicals, leaky gut syndrome, heavy metals, vegetable oils, and food allergies.

We also talk about how to naturally help autoimmune disorders.


Dr Martin Jr: You're listening to The Doctor is in podcast, from Although we share a lot of practical, and in our opinion, awesome information, what you hear on this podcast is not intended to diagnose, cure, treat, or prevent any disease, it's strictly for informational purposes, so enjoy. Hi, I'm Dr. Martin Jr.

Dr Martin Sr: I'm Dr. Martin Sr.

Dr Martin Jr: And this is The Doctor is in podcast, and today [00:00:30] we want to talk about autoimmune disorders. Now, what's really unfortunate is the amount of people that now have autoimmune disorders. I remember reading a statistic, not long ago, that if you're a woman, you have a 1 in 9 chance of developing an autoimmune disorder. So they've exploded in diagnosis over the years. They've just become so much more common.

So what we want to do today is talk about autoimmune disorders in general, [00:01:00] talk about what we think is going on, and then five of the biggest causes of autoimmune disorders, and then we'll talk about what you can do naturally to help fix what's going on in the background. So as I mentioned right up at the start of this episode, they have become ... I mean, you've been in practice 45 years.

Dr Martin Sr: Crazy, you see it every day.

Dr Martin Jr: Compared to when you started.

Dr Martin Sr: Yeah.

Dr Martin Jr: So if you go back to when you started, did they have electricity back then?

Dr Martin Sr: I know, I'm [00:01:30] ancient.

Dr Martin Jr: I remember, I know you lived in a world where despite science, you had to walk both ways up a hill, to school, both times.

Dr Martin Sr: Yeah [crosstalk 00:01:39]

Dr Martin Jr: The school was-

Dr Martin Sr: On snow shoes.

Dr Martin Jr: Yeah, both ways.

Dr Martin Sr: Yeah.

Dr Martin Jr: So for some reason there was a tilt in the axis or something, you had to walk-

Dr Martin Sr: I told you guys that, and then I was telling my grandchildren that.

Dr Martin Jr: Oh I know, 'cause my kids have said that you were telling them that as well, so-

Dr Martin Sr: Of course, yeah. But you know, I'll tell you, just to give you a little background [00:02:00] in that sense, the first time I saw a real epidemic of autoimmune was in the late, let's say mid 80s to the early 90s. The first wave of real difficult diagnoses in terms of autoimmune, and that was on chronic fatigue syndrome. Because that really is an autoimmune disorder, so is fibromyalgia in that sense. [00:02:30] 'Cause fibro's just a symptom, I believe, of chronic fatigue. But that was the first wave. And now, in our practice, of course we see autoimmune. I see it every day.

Dr Martin Jr: Well yeah, and now there are over 100 different types of autoimmune disorders. Of course the most common ones are things like celiac, Hashimoto is so much more common.

Dr Martin Sr: Oh I know.

Dr Martin Jr: The amount of women who are getting diagnosed with Hashimoto's is just unbelievable. We'll talk about that [00:03:00] in a few minutes, about what's going on in the background, but Hashimoto's, lupus-

Dr Martin Sr: MS.

Dr Martin Jr: MS, especially in the Northern hemisphere, MS is definitely growing as well. And then you got asthmas, asthmas like crazy. I remember you used to talk about asthma being the canary in the coal mine in a lot of ways, which is interesting. A lot of inflammatory bowel diseases now. Psoriasis, eczema, rheumatoid arthritis, ALS is another.

Dr Martin Sr: Yeah.

Dr Martin Jr: So, [00:03:30] so much more common, but there are other ones as well that are not "officially", and I'm doing air quotes here, for those that are wondering, that are not officially diagnosed. You mentioned chronic fatigue syndrome. You've mentioned fibromyalgia, and also Meniere's disease as well, right?

Dr Martin Sr: Yeah.

Dr Martin Jr: Which is an inner-ear issue. For a lot of people it could be treated as if it's an autoimmune disorder, and the information that we're going to share today will help along the lines of that [00:04:00] as well. Here's the thing, we put out an email not long ago asking the question, "Can you have a hidden autoimmune disorder?" Because here's the thing, here's the most common symptoms of an autoimmune disorder. Now again, we'll get into this in a lot more detail in a second.

But fatigue is a common, heat intolerance, rapid heart rate, hives, sensitive to the sun, hair loss, digestive issues, [00:04:30] sore joints, muscle pain, tremors, weight gain, or weight loss, memory, those are generic symptoms that can be a lot of different things across the board, but they're also common in autoimmune disorders.

So there are a lot of people who have thyroid going on for example, they've got a lot of these symptoms, and what they actually have is an autoimmune disorder, which is why, well it's not the only reason, but it's a big reason why, a lot of it has to do with lab values in general. [00:05:00] But it's a big reason why a lot of women who have Hashimoto's, they get on thyroid medication, and they don't feel better. Now they may feel better for a bit, but they've got to constantly adjust their medications, because the body's attacking its own thyroid.

Dr Martin Sr: Yeah.

Dr Martin Jr: And that's really ... And we'll talk really, the definition of an autoimmune disorder is when your own immune system attacks your own cells. Again, you can have an autoimmune [00:05:30] disorder in pretty much any part of your body because your immune system is everywhere, and it can attack any part of your body. So if you have an autoimmune disorder of your skin, you may end up with something like psoriasis, or eczema. If you have an autoimmune disorder of the thyroid, Hashimoto's. If you have it of your joints you can have lupus, or rheumatoid arthritis.

It can attack your bowels. You can get inflammatory-type stuff. It can attack anything. If it attacks your brain stem, you can end up with ALS, MS, same [00:06:00] thing. So I mean, you can end up with this anywhere. But the reality is, they are three times more common today than they were even a couple decades ago. And if you're a woman especially, you're more likely to end up with an autoimmune disorder. And statistically speaking, women have what is now, what, 1 in 7, or 1 in 8 chance of breast cancer?

Dr Martin Sr: Yeah, it's 1 in 7.

Dr Martin Jr: 1 in 9 chance of an autoimmune disorder. So things are starting to add up. Things are starting to add up. So what we want to do today is [00:06:30] talk about autoimmune disorders, and talk about what we think some of the biggest reasons why we're seeing an explosion. And then also what we can do naturally to help fix them.

So what we have to do is start off with a conversation, I think, two conversations. The first one's about cause and effect. 'Cause in reality, the autoimmune disorder is the effect, it's not the cause. So you have to figure out what's triggering. At the end of the day, there's something that's triggering [00:07:00] your immune system to get funny, and start to attack its own cells. So there's always a cause.

Now that cause may be difficult to figure out, but there's always a cause. It doesn't just spontaneously, for no reason whatsoever, start. There's always a reason. There's always something that triggers your immune system to start attacking its own cells.

Now you and I, we have a ... We'll share it now, but a real [00:07:30] simplistic way of looking at the immune system. Now we'll give the warning now, this is an over-simplistic, overview of how the immune system works. It's obviously a lot more complicated than this. But this is a good overview of what's going on.

Dr Martin Sr: Yeah.

Dr Martin Jr: From the time you are one cell. From the very beginning, that cell, once it starts to divide, there's a protein in there that basically ... [00:08:00] we like to tell people it's like a barcode. It's a protein that's a barcode, and that barcode gets in every cell of your body.

Dr Martin Sr: Yeah, it's you.

Dr Martin Jr: It's you. And so imagine your immune system is going around scanning cells. If it has that barcode, if it has that protein, your immune system knows it's your own cell, so it scans it, "Nope, it's me." Scans it, "No, it's me." Scans it, "It's me." Scans a cell, "No, it's not me, we better attack [00:08:30] it. It's not supposed to be here." And that's an over-simplistic view of how the immune system works. But there's a lot going on there obviously. But that's the basic idea. Something happens along the way where the immune system no longer recognizes that cell.

Dr Martin Sr: Even though it's yours.

Dr Martin Jr: And it actually starts to view it as a threat.

Dr Martin Sr: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Dr Martin Jr: And starts to attack it. Now what's interesting, a lot of times it's caused by inflammation. Inflammation [00:09:00] can mess up that signalling between the cells, cause it to attack itself.

Dr Martin Sr: Yep. Well we see it a lot. It's incredible, and like you say, it's so much more prevalent today.

Dr Martin Jr: Now, what's interesting is, so if we take that analogy, something has to disrupt that signal between the immune system and the cells. So what's doing that? What's the cause? Well there's a lot of different causes. [00:09:30] But we've narrowed it down to the five biggest causes of what's going on.

So imagine cause and effect, you have a cause, and that cause is leading to inflammation. And then the inflammation is basically messing up the way your immune system works, and then your immune system starts to attack its own cells, and then you end up with symptoms, and you have an autoimmune disorder.

So correcting the problem, in order to fix the problem you have to fix the cause, and [00:10:00] you have to get the immune system to start acting normal again. But, the nice thing is, if you can get rid of that inflammation, you can get rid of the cause, then the immune system just starts doing its job. They're just going to continue doing their job. They're going to be able to properly recognize for ... keeping it simple, they're going to be able to recognize its own cells and they're not going to attack it.

So if you have psoriasis, the immune system will no longer attack your skin cells. If you have Hashimoto's, no longer attack your thyroid. So that's the key, that's what we're trying to [00:10:30] figure out today.

So let's talk about those five big things. Now, the biggest one is leaky gut.

Dr Martin Sr: Absolutely. As a matter of fact, to be honest, I've never seen a case really, you talk about from MS to lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, and we coin these things, leaky gut, leaky skin, leaky gut, leaky brain, leaky gut, leaky lungs, you know asthma. Leaky gut, whatever. [00:11:00] It's the key is, has to be the gut. It doesn't mean that it's the only thing going wrong, but it's certainly one of the key factors, because I've never seen exceptions to it, and-

Dr Martin Jr: Well, and that's the thing, leaky gut is, in our opinion, everybody who has an autoimmune disorder has leaky gut syndrome.

Dr Martin Sr: Yeah, for sure.

Dr Martin Jr: But again, here's the thing, it's cause and effect. Leaky gut does not just spontaneously show up.

Dr Martin Sr: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Dr Martin Jr: Something has [00:11:30] to trigger leaky gut to start, and we have a great video on our website where we talk about all the different causes of leaky gut, things that can affect the way that your gut works, just at the basic level. Those things can be a cause of leaky gut, which then can lead to inflammation, which can then mess up the immune system, which can lead to an autoimmune disorder.

Dr Martin Sr: Yeah.

Dr Martin Jr: So leaky gut, when we say leaky gut, there's a lot of things that can cause leaky gut syndrome.

Dr Martin Sr: Yeah.

Dr Martin Jr: Stress [00:12:00] can cause it. Stress is a big cause of leaky gut syndrome.

Dr Martin Sr: Yeah.

Dr Martin Jr: Cortisol inflames the gut, leads to increased permeability, meaning, things can get through the gut lining, into the blood that should never get into the blood.

Dr Martin Sr: Yeah.

Dr Martin Jr: And that can cause a whole bunch of problems.

Dr Martin Sr: Cortisol, and if it isn't the original cause, it aggravates everything because it just, it's like the expression we like to use, it's adding gasoline fuel to the fire. It creates all [00:12:30] that enormous inflammation.

One of the biggest things that I see with leaky gut, and it's just because I'm always asking questions in the office. So when I see someone autoimmune, I'm always going backwards to see, "Now, were you on lots of antibiotics as a kid?" 'Cause that's a question I ask. Or, a couple of years ago, or whatever because ... And I look, antibiotics save your life, so I don't downplay the benefits of antibiotics, but the double- [00:13:00] edged sword of antibiotics is leaky gut. And boy oh boy, I'll tell you, it's almost invariable, it's one of the key factors for a lot of people that end up with autoimmune is they've had a series of antibiotics, sometimes lots of them, especially as kids, and it comes back to haunt them when they get older. I'm telling you, it's part of that equation because it's a big [00:13:30] factor, not the only factor in leaky gut, but it's certainly one of the main causes of leaky gut. Because you can't get away almost without exception, you can't get away from what antibiotics do, and they kill good, bad, and ugly. Antibiotic's a broad spectrum, kill your friendly bacteria, and-

Dr Martin Jr: And studies have shown they actually leave a little, almost a fingerprint for a long time after.

Dr Martin Sr: Yeah.

Dr Martin Jr: We talked about this on a previous [00:14:00] episode.

Dr Martin Sr: Yeah.

Dr Martin Jr: Some of your good bacteria never comes back.

Dr Martin Sr: No.

Dr Martin Jr: It doesn't come back, which again, talks about the importance of a good probiotic. We get asked, especially this time of year, "If I'm taking antibiotic, should I take a probiotic?" Yes. You need to absolutely should be taking a probiotic. And you're right, I mean if you look at the history of people with autoimmune disorders, they definitely have a history, a big percent of them have a history of using, or having taken a fair amount of [00:14:30] antibiotics, or other drugs. 'Cause with a lot of other drugs that can kill the microbiome as well. There's a lot of other drugs out there, a lot of pain medications, and-

Dr Martin Sr: Well almost all drugs. Almost all medications, one of the side effects is certainly leaky gut.

Dr Martin Jr: Well 'cause they've discovered this concept of a microbiome, which is just a bacteria that is beneficial to us, and researchers are calling it another organ. You can't live without it. You'd be dead without it. You can't be healthy without a good microbiome. [00:15:00] So I mean they understand the importance of it.

When they did a lot of these drug testing, they never looked at the effect it had on microbiome 'cause they didn't know about it. And now they're finding out that a lot of the these things have a negative impact on your microbiome, which is again, why people should be taking probiotics, a good probiotic when they're taking medication, even if they're not. But that's what's going on. There's a lot of things, and it's important to understand that.

So a lot of times when it comes to naturally [00:15:30] dealing with an autoimmune disorder is fixing the gut. This is important to understand, just because you have leaky gut syndrome does not necessarily mean you're going to be having digestive symptoms. But a lot of people with autoimmune do have digestive symptoms. They either have a change of bowel habits. They get bloating, got gall bladder issues, or they've had their gall bladder removed. They got low stomach acid. They got a whole bunch of these symptoms, burping, or whatever, heartburn. So they may have a digestive symptom that's going on in the background, [00:16:00] but they gotta fix the gut. There's no question. A lot of the healing starts at that level.

Because one of the things that you and I have talked about quite a bit off-air that's fascinating is so what happens, what makes leaky gut a problem is what it allows into the blood. The whole point of your bowels, your gut lining, is to be what they call selectively permeable. They allow certain things in and they stop other things.

Dr Martin Sr: Yeah, bad guys out.

Dr Martin Jr: Bad guys [00:16:30] out. Leaky gut basically just imagine the pores opening up a little bit and allowing more things in there. So they're allowing bad things to get in, undigested food, toxins, fungus, and that's what we want to talk about a little bit here, is we're starting to see how much of a problem fungus candidas is.

Dr Martin Sr: Yeah.

Dr Martin Jr: You and I have talked about candida for brain, and studies come up now showing that it can cross the blood, brain barrier.

Dr Martin Sr: Scary.

Dr Martin Jr: Yeah, it's terrifying when you think about [00:17:00] it. But candida is a major problem. We're loaded with fungus now, it's everywhere. So the problem with leaky gut is it allows things to get in that shouldn't get in. But as we've mentioned before, a lot of those things shouldn't have even gotten into your gut in the first place. They should have been killed by your acid in your stomach, or your gall bladder. So it's really a systemic. So when we say leaky gut, leaky gut allows the bad things to get in. But the bad things can get [00:17:30] in 'cause they weren't killed when they should have been killed.

Dr Martin Sr: Yeah.

Dr Martin Jr: So it's really a gut, digestive problem. Like digestion, there's five major components of digestion. You have the stomach acid, you have stomach, you have the gall bladder, you have the liver, you have the pancreas, and then you have the bowels.

Dr Martin Sr: Yeah.

Dr Martin Jr: When it comes to those bad things not getting killed, well the stomach didn't do its job. The gall bladder didn't do its job.

Dr Martin Sr: Gall bladder didn't.

Dr Martin Jr: The [00:18:00] liver didn't do its job. And then now you have the pancreas will give it a pass on there 'cause it's busy doing a lot of other things. But that's what's happening. So the upper digestive system failed as well, miserably. It didn't do its job. So they have ... If you have an autoimmune disorder, you have leaky gut, you have a digestive issue.

Dr Martin Sr: Yeah.

Dr Martin Jr: Here's another thing, a lot of leaky gut can start off because your upper part of your digestive [00:18:30] system is not working, and it strains your gut. It causes inflammation. So if you can have a gut lining that's stopping stuff from getting in, but if your stomach acid's low, and your gall bladder is not there no more, or it's just not doing its job, your gut lining is being bombarded with junk. It's stressing it out.

Dr Martin Sr: Yeah because the furnace is supposed to burn it down. When you think of what your stomach acid does. It takes anything [00:19:00] that's coming in, including candida, and it's supposed to kill it. It shouldn't get into even into your gut.

Dr Martin Jr: That's the problem. So when we say that leaky gut is a major cause of autoimmune, now here's the thing, a lot of people in this world have leaky gut, and a lot of them don't have an autoimmune disorder, that's the reality. But if you have leaky gut, some may have IBS, some may have joint pain. Some may have brain issues, some can have skin. A lot of skin [00:19:30] conditions directly tied into the health of your gut.

So there's a lot of things going on, but there's a percentage of people that when they have leaky gut and they get inflammation, and they get cortisol increases, and they get all these things going on, it eventually can mess up the way the immune system works, and then it starts to attack its own cells. So leaky gut can go to a lot of different things, and not everybody that has leaky gut that's going to have an autoimmune disorder, but everybody that has an autoimmune disorder has leaky gut. That's a [00:20:00] pretty safe thing, in a sense, to say.

So a big part of naturally dealing with an autoimmune is fixing the gut. Even if you don't think your gut is a problem, 'cause you're not getting traditional digestive symptoms. But I'm willing to bet that if you took a questionnaire of all the digestive symptoms, you would have them.

Dr Martin Sr: Yeah.

Dr Martin Jr: You would have some for sure.

Dr Martin Sr: Yeah.

Dr Martin Jr: If you have an autoimmune disorder, you have something going on gut. So leaky gut is a starting point for a lot of autoimmune disorders. [00:20:30] Whatever can cause leaky gut can eventually be the trigger that leads to an autoimmune disorder. So when we leaky gut is a cause, we're saying whatever can cause leaky gut can lead to an autoimmune disorder. So that's the first one, leaky gut's a big one.

A second big one, chemicals. Chemicals cause inflammation. They don't cause fevers like the old bacteria did. They cause a disruption in the immune [00:21:00] system, because the amount of inflammation they cause. We are living in a chemical world they're everywhere.

Dr Martin Sr: Yeah.

Dr Martin Jr: Chemicals are everywhere.

Dr Martin Sr: 100,000 chemicals, new chemicals have been created since World War II. At least, like you say, you can't leave the planet. You're going to be surrounded by chemicals. You expressed this before. When we talk about plastic for example, it's in the air, you're [00:21:30] breathing plastic in. I always say that autoimmune is somebody that, the canary in the coal mine. We can put 10 people in a room and 10 people breathe the same air, drink the same water or whatever, but if you have any kind of sensitivity, or if your microbiome isn't right, those chemicals can cause your body to overreact to them, they see them as something that disrupts, [00:22:00] and then your body attacks, and you over attack.

Dr Martin Jr: Here's the thing with chemicals, so chemicals can hurt your immune system in two ways, one, chemicals can directly affect the way that the cells signal and talk to each other. So it can cut off radio communication. Every movie where it doesn't matter the movie, if the two main characters have walkie talkies, at some point [00:22:30] something disrupts their communication, at some point. It doesn't matter what it is, they're pushing on the button and they can't hear each other, that's chemicals can do that between the cells in your immune system, directly. But then chemicals also create inflammation, which can then disrupt further. So chemicals can be a double whammy.

Here's the thing, I mean there's a lot of studies we can look at, but one large study tested a bunch of people, tested their urine. 93% [00:23:00] of them had glyphosate in their urine, 93%. I want to read you a quote from a study that was done on babies. In 2005, researchers found 287, 287 industrial chemicals including pesticides, folates, dioxin, flame-retardants, and the break down of chemicals from Teflon in the fetal cord of 10 newborn infants from around the country. [00:23:30] So transmitted to the infants by their mothers, exposures before and during pregnancy. So kids are born into this world already loaded with chemicals. That's incredible to think about. So we live in a chemical world.

Dr Martin Sr: Oh yeah.

Dr Martin Jr: So there's no-

Dr Martin Sr: Toxic soup.

Dr Martin Jr: There's no question why we see an increase in autoimmune disorders, and here's the thing, you can't prevent that. You can't. You can do, you can reduce it. [00:24:00] You can avoid it as much as you can. But it is everywhere. You can go completely organic, plastic-free, fragrance-free-

Dr Martin Sr: They don't give you a straw in the restaurants anymore.

Dr Martin Jr: You can do all that stuff, but you're going to be exposed to chemicals. So you can't run from that, so the key is, you want to build up the defence your body has against chemicals. You want to make sure that your liver is working properly. You want to make sure [00:24:30] that your digestive tract is working properly. You want to make sure your immune system is up to par. 'Cause you can't avoid chemicals, they're everywhere. But chemicals can trigger autoimmune, and chemicals can also be a major cause of leaky gut as well. So chemicals are a big cause. But again, you can't avoid them. You can reduce exposure for sure. You can reduce exposure. But you can't completely avoid chemicals. So that's the thing. We talked about leaky gut, we talked about chemicals, you like to mention [00:25:00] heavy metals.

Dr Martin Sr: Yeah, mercury, lead, cadmium. Your body is so receptive to those things because they do mimic, in a lot of ways their structure of certain minerals even like magnesium and potassium. So your body ... It's amazing how many people are walking around with mercury, lead, cadmium in their system and they don't even know it. Again, it's part [00:25:30] of the toxic soup. Lead, it's in the soil. Anything coming out of China, just about, has got lead in it. Women that wear makeup and lipstick and shampoos. You know what I mean? The high fructose corn syrup.

Dr Martin Jr: And that's where we talk about reducing your exposure.

Dr Martin Sr: Right.

Dr Martin Jr: There are better makeups out there, shampoos out there. You want to reduce your exposure.

Dr Martin Sr: Yeah.

Dr Martin Jr: But yeah, it's amazing. So heavy metals, again, they can disrupt [00:26:00] the way the immune system works. They can cause a bunch of inflammation. But they are definitely can be for some people, the cause that leads to an autoimmune disorder.

Here's another one, and this is a big one as well. Vegetable oils, processed foods. Vegetable oils irritate the lining of most people's guts. When that happens, you end up with leaky gut, and when that happens, as we talked about, many times on this episode, [00:26:30] can lead to autoimmune disorders. Also, there's something to be said about the ratio between omega-6s, which are found in processed vegetable oils, and omega-3s. If your intake of omega-6s is a lot more than your intake of omega-3s, that ratio can lead to a lot of problems. Right now I think it's 18 to 1. I think it might even be higher.

Dr Martin Sr: Yeah, very [crosstalk 00:26:58] well it's crazy.

Dr Martin Jr: [00:27:00] I thought I read somewhere around 25 to 1, but the last thing that I remember reading specifically was 18 to 1, meaning, we consume on average, 18 times more omega-6s than we do omega-3s. That ratio is a disaster. That ratio is a recipe for disaster. For some people, that alone can cause such an inflammatory reaction and a gut disruption that that alone could be the cause for some people of [00:27:30] autoimmune. So that's a big issue as well. We consume a ton of vegetable oils in our diet. If you eat out, if you buy packaged foods, they're all vegetable oils.

Dr Martin Sr: They last, you see.

Dr Martin Jr: And I ... Listen, vegetable oil is a tremendous marketing job. I mean vegetables are always healthy, in people's head, always. So how do you make an oil that's not [00:28:00] healthy sound healthy? Call it a vegetable oil.

Dr Martin Sr: Yeah, 'cause it's really, you can run your car on this stuff.

Dr Martin Jr: [crosstalk 00:28:06] Yeah, they're not-

Dr Martin Sr: It's industrialized. Highly, highly processed.

Dr Martin Jr: Go on YouTube and look at how canola oil is made, there's nothing natural about canola oil.

Dr Martin Sr: Yeah.

Dr Martin Jr: Yet it's a vegetable oil, and it's healthy vegetable oil. So again, that's a big problem, which is why a lot of people do well when they increase their intake of omega-3.

Dr Martin Sr: Omega-3, yeah.

Dr Martin Jr: And then they lower their processed food, or their omega-6 [00:28:30] intake, and it's amazing how much better they feel.

The fifth thing that we want to talk about quickly are food allergies. There are a lot of people that have these hidden food allergies. They're not that hidden. They're getting a lot of symptoms, they just don't know that it's 'cause of a food allergen. They got mucus, they always have had asthma. They have headaches, or they have digestive issues. They have skin issues. They got bags under their eyes, or whatever. They got these symptoms. So when we say hidden, they're not hidden, [00:29:00] I mean their symptoms are there, they just are not, they don't know where to look. They're not sure what they are.

Dr Martin Sr: Yeah, they can't equate it with-

Dr Martin Jr: No, it's funny because people will talk to us about, "Oh, I get a lot of asthma, and a lot of coughing, and a lot of mucus." And then it's like, "Okay." You ask them some questions, and it's usually around after a meal. Then you can narrow it down, it's like, "Yeah, you can't have dairy." Or, "You can't have eggs." Eggs is a common, unfortunately, 'cause it's such [00:29:30] a good food.

Dr Martin Sr: Yeah, such a good food, but-

Dr Martin Jr: I can't eat eggs. I can't eat eggs.

Dr Martin Sr: And it's a lot worse today than it was. But again, that goes back to the change, I believe, in the microbiome, because now eggs, which are 100% good for you-

Dr Martin Jr: Every time I can't eat an egg, I blame mum. She was on antibiotics for what, seven-

Dr Martin Sr: Eight years.

Dr Martin Jr: Eight years?

Dr Martin Sr: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Dr Martin Jr: The whole pregnancy with me, on antibiotics.

Dr Martin Sr: She was, and as a little girl, for eight years, lost a kidney.

Dr Martin Jr: Eight [00:30:00] years.

Dr Martin Sr: In the 1950s that's what they did.

Dr Martin Jr: That's what they did. They just put them on antibiotics forever.

Dr Martin Sr: Yeah.

Dr Martin Jr: So I can't eat eggs. That's probably the reason, I just like to tease her about it, but I can't enjoy-

Dr Martin Sr: She can't even eat eggs.

Dr Martin Jr: No, she can't even eat eggs either. But yeah, it's amazing, right?

Dr Martin Sr: I make up for it, for you both of you guys.

Dr Martin Jr: Yeah, and my wife makes up for it, and unfortunately, I just can't eat eggs.

Dr Martin Sr: No, yeah.

Dr Martin Jr: And even my kids can tolerate eggs, but they can't eat-

Dr Martin Sr: They can't live on them.

Dr Martin Jr: They definitely can't, and if they have eggs one day, they gotta take some time off [00:30:30] in between type of thing. But food allergies, again, are so common today that most people have an intolerance to a food, and they don't even know it. They don't even know it. And that, again, can trigger inflammation, can trigger an autoimmune disorder. Which again, goes back to eating, goes back to the gut to fix it.

So let's ... We've been talking a fair amount about some big concepts for autoimmune. [00:31:00] Let's talk about how to approach from a natural standpoint, how do you approach dealing with an autoimmune disorder? Now here's the thing, so an autoimmune, as we mentioned at the top, can affect any organ. So let's just say that you have Hashimoto's.

So here's the thing, you have to address the cause, you have to fix the gut, and then you have to help repair the thyroid. So there's three steps involved. And actually, there's a fourth [00:31:30] step, 'cause you have to help the immune system. So really there's four steps to dealing with any autoimmune. So if you have rheumatoid for example, well you have to identify the cause. You have to fix the gut. You have to help the immune system, and then you gotta do something to help repair, specifically for the joints. So it's a four-step process. Regardless of whether you have an autoimmune disorder. But let's start with food. Let's just again, with the way somebody should [00:32:00] eat if they have an autoimmune disorder.

Dr Martin Sr: Well, number one, pretty simple. If you're going to do one thing, cut out your sugars, because sugar and yeast, like we said, there's always candida, always one of the side effects. If you're going to do nothing else, cut out the sugar in your diet. Cut it down to almost nothing. We always talk about eating low-carb, and eating crappy carbohydrates. [00:32:30] Get rid of that stuff. So diet has a big, big effect on autoimmune.

Dr Martin Jr: Yeah, diet is probably the biggest thing to start. So if you have a food allergy, identify it, and get rid of it, clean your diet up. Simplify your diet.

Dr Martin Sr: Rope it in.

Dr Martin Jr: Rope it in. Now if you have an autoimmune disorder, simplify your diet. Don't get too creative. Don't get too wild. Bring your diet in. Cut down sugar. Cut down processed foods. Keep your insulin levels [00:33:00] low, which means going a lot lower carb. A lot of people get great results when they go ketogenic, they start consuming less than 30 or 40 grams of carbs a day. They're not eating processed.

Dr Martin Sr: Anything.

Dr Martin Jr: You could do keto and eat processed foods, that's the thing. I mean a lot of people eat low-carb, and they have a very high-processed diet as well, because reading a lot of the vegetable oil stuff. Again, that's the first thing, cut down sugar, cut down vegetable oils. Cut down carbs. Reign your food [00:33:30] in. It's amazing, just by doing that, how much better people feel.

Dr Martin Sr: Yeah, for sure.

Dr Martin Jr: Right?

Dr Martin Sr: Good results.

Dr Martin Jr: Right off the bat, so food is where you start. So identify the cause. Identify that cause, cause and effect. That requires work from people. That requires for some people, keeping a food journal, noticing when their symptoms, because the body will tell you. If you've got rheumatoid arthritis, and your joints are worse lately, well that's where you want to pay attention to what [00:34:00] you've been doing, stress, eating, exercise, all these things. You want to pay attention to see if you can identify what's going on.

Dr Martin Sr: Yeah.

Dr Martin Jr: Then you want to fix the gut. In order to fix the gut, as I mentioned, there's five parts to digestion. Probiotics is a starting point, no question.

Dr Martin Sr: Yeah.

Dr Martin Jr: You have to start with a good probiotic. But you need a good digestive enzyme as well for the upper GI part. You need a good digestive enzyme as well. That's a big aspect of that. So you have your gut, fix the gut. If [00:34:30] you go to our website, we have a great training on digestive health. Sign up for that, watch it. That's a great place to start.

Dr Martin Sr: Yeah.

Dr Martin Jr: Then you have to help the immune system. Well how do you help the immune system? What do you recommend for somebody that needs immune system help?

Dr Martin Sr: Again, you want to make sure you got good levels of vitamin-D, because your immune system doesn't work properly without vitamin-D.

Dr Martin Jr: So they want to optimize vitamin-D level?

Dr Martin Sr: Always optimize vitamin-D. I always say, [00:35:00] if you want to put your immune system to sleep, go back to food, eat sugar. So eliminate the sugar. Get your immune system where it can concentrate on what it needs to concentrate on, and not be put to sleep by your poor diet. But the big thing on immunity is getting your optimizing vitamin-D. That's why you always ... Some people are sensitive to the sun, especially with lupus, but then you gotta take vitamin- [00:35:30] D as a supplement. It's very, very important for you.

Dr Martin Jr: All right, so we've covered a ton of stuff on this podcast. We're about 40 minutes in, so we're out of time. Again, if you have questions, just email us. You do Facebook lives, there's a lot of ways to get a hold of us. Again, we want to thank you for listening. Have a great day.

Dr Martin Sr: Thanks for listening to The Doctor is in podcast from if you have any questions, you can reach us at If you're not [00:36:00] a newsletter subscriber, you can head to our website and sign up for free. We also have a private Facebook group that you can join, it's a community of awesome people. Finally, I do a Facebook live every Thursday morning at 8:30. join us again next week for a new episode.

Jan 31, 2019

In this episode we continue talking about the 6 midlife brain killers. Research shows what you do in your 40's, 50's, and 60's determines the health of your brain in your 70's and 80's.

We discuss...

High Blood Sugar

High Insulin

High Inflammation

We also discuss how research shows even high NORMAL blood sugar and blood pressure can put your brain as serious risk.

We also talk about how to protect your brain naturally.

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Dr. Martin Jr.: You're listening to The Doctor Is In Podcast from Although we share a lot of practical, and in our opinion awesome information, what you hear on this podcast is not intended to diagnose, cure, treat, or prevent any disease. It's strictly for informational purposes, so enjoy.

Hi. I'm Dr. Martin Junior.

Dr. Martin Sr.: I'm Dr. Martin Senior.

Dr. Martin Jr.: This is The Doctor Is In Podcast, and [00:00:30] this is episode 170. Now, today we're gonna continue to talk about what we talked about last week. Last week, we started with the premise that what you do in your 40s and 50s and 60s determines the health of your brain in your 70s and 80s, because statistically, once you're 85 years old, 50% of the people at 85 have Alzheimer's. It's a coin flip, right? How [00:01:00] you end up on what side of the coin is really decided what you do in your 40s, 50s, and 60s.

In last week's episode, if you haven't heard it, go back and listen to last week's episode, because we really laid a foundation and we talk about the first three midlife brain killers. We have six things that happen in your midlife that will kill your brain when you're older. That's what we're talking about.

Now, we also talked about, last week ... At the end of the day, if you were to [00:01:30] reverse engineer Alzheimer's and dementia, there are four big causes of Alzheimer's and dementia. Four big causes. Now, they're gonna say genetics, and all those kind of things, but they're not, in my opinion, one of the big causes of Alzheimer's dementia. We talked about brain shrinking. Last week we talked a lot about the fact that it's normal, as you age, it's normal that your brain shrinks. But when it shrinks too fast, and there's a lot of reasons why your brain can [00:02:00] shrink too fast, but when it does, you're gonna end up with an Alzheimer's dementia. Inflammation. Massive cause of Alzheimer's dementia, and there are a lot of things that can cause inflammation.

Then we talk about infection. That's a new one. You and I have been talking about leaky gut, leaky brain for a long time, but research is starting to catch up, and we talked a few episodes ago about the studies showing how candida can actually cross the [00:02:30] blood-brain barrier, and these researchers are starting to look at the fact that that might be a major cause of Alzheimer's dementia and Parkinson's in people. In fact, Harvard has started what they call the Brain Microbiome Project. They're looking at, the brain actually has its own microbiome. The brain isn't sterile. Let's just say that. That's the third thing, and then of course, insulin. High insulin can cause ... In fact, I read something saying about half the people with Alzheimer's-

Dr. Martin Sr.: [00:03:00] Type three diabetes.

Dr. Martin Jr.: ... is due to elevated insulin. 50% of the people with Alzheimer's, it's because they have a problem with high circulating insulin, right? That's what we talked about last week, and then we mentioned that there are six brain killers that happen, so in your 40s and 50s and early 60s, if you do these six things, or any of them, or a multiple of them, you're gonna end up with ... We can't say that for sure, but there's a good [00:03:30] chance you're gonna end up with Alzheimer's dementia.

Last week, we talked about muscle mass. Studies are showing this, again. We talked about muscle mass, we talked about muscle strength, and we talked about high blood pressure, and we also talked about, research is showing that even if you have normal blood pressure that might be a little higher, but it's not diagnosed as high blood pressure, your chance of getting Alzheimer's increases. That was last week.

All right. This [00:04:00] week, we're gonna finish off with the other three brain killers, and then we'll end it by talking about how to protect your brain, what you can do to protect your brain. All right. Let's start off with the big one, which is inflammation, right? Specifically, again, remember, we know and we've talked about this before, that inflammation causes Alzheimer's dementia for a lot of people, but what we want to do is, we're talking about midlife. Research is clear on this as [00:04:30] well. Midlife inflammation is associated with late life brain volume. One of the things that happens is, if you have inflammation in your 40s and 50s in your brain ... Not even your brain. Sorry. These are systemic inflammatory markers, so high CRP, just high inflammation in midlife, your brain shrinks faster, which is a big problem. Midlife inflammation is a big-time indicator [00:05:00] of brain volume later in life.

Now, you know what's interesting? It used to be, and I remember reading a study a while ago, and they looked at the causes of brain shrinkage, because our brains shrink when we age. That's normal, but excessive brain shrinkage ... It used to be this. Smoking shrinks your brain faster.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Microcirculation.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Yup. It affects the brain volume. I mean, it used to be if you smoke, not only all the other things that happen, and you're gonna age faster on [00:05:30] the outside, and all the free radical damage. Your brain volume shrinks. That was one. High blood pressure, they talked about. We talked specifically now about-

Dr. Martin Sr.: [crosstalk 00:05:39].

Dr. Martin Jr.: ... midlife high blood pressure. Obesity. Studies have shown that someone is obese has a smaller brain than somebody who's not. We now know a lot of reasons why that is, right? But those were the big things that used to, they associated with a smaller brain volume. Now there's a lot more things. Even midlife inflammation [00:06:00] shrinks your brain faster, so midlife inflammation.

Now, we've already talked about this before. Last episode, we kind of led off by talking about how you look in your 40s and 50s is determined by your 20s and 30s. A person who smokes or drinks too much or doesn't exercise, they eat a lot of junk, a lot of vegetable oils, they age faster.

Dr. Martin Sr.: And it shows up faster.

Dr. Martin Jr.: And it shows up faster, so you have somebody who's late 40s, [00:06:30] and somebody can't guess their age because they look like they could really be late 50s, and then vice-versa, people are surprised when somebody says, "Oh, you're 47?" Or whatever. "You don't look anything close to that." Right? A lot of that is 20s and 30s. It really comes back and bites you in your late 40s and 50s, but here's the thing. Chronic inflammation, so midlife chronic inflammation, they have shown not only does it shrink your brain faster, it is also ... There was a big study [00:07:00] done back in 2016, and they've called it infla-aging, because chronic inflammation is the accelerator of biological aging. Now, what does that mean? That's a mouthful.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Well, there's a difference between chronological aging and biological aging. Now, we can't do anything about chronological aging. Every year we get older, right? Every year, you get older. You have so many birthdays in your [00:07:30] lifetime. There's nothing you can do about that. That's chronological aging, so you have no control over your age. Mind you, people are identifying as a ... I saw that one thing, is a senior wanting to identify as a 40-year-old. But you can't do anything about your birthdays. However, biological aging is different, because biological aging is the actual age of your cells, how old your cells are. Some people, [00:08:00] their insides are way older than their outside, their age, and then the other way around. Sometimes they may be 60, but they got a biological age of 40.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Because their metabolic health is so healthy, right? Nothing ages you faster on the inside than inflammation. A study was done, and actually, it's interesting, they called it Inflamma-Aging, so Infla-Aging. Inflammation ages you. This is what they found specifically. Not only does inflammation [00:08:30] in midlife significantly raise your risk of morbidity and mortality, it also increases mitochondrial dysfunction, and I'll tell you, mitochondria, which are the little battery packs of your cells, mitochondrial health really determines your energy levels.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: You and I think that cancer is a disease of mitochondria, right? It's a metabolic disorder.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Again, your mitochondria, immune system, hormones, dysfunction of your telomeres. [00:09:00] Now, telomeres, telomeres are interesting, because I always tell people with telomeres, it's kind of like the wick of a candle. The longer your telomeres are-

Dr. Martin Sr.: The longer you last.

Dr. Martin Jr.: ... the longer you're gonna live.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Shorter telomeres are associated with shorter lifespans, so you want long telomeres, right? Again, inflammation shortens telomeres. Again, also plays a key role ... This is all the study. They looked at all ... It's very interesting. Type two diabetes. [00:09:30] Of course, we're talking about Alzheimer's. Cardiovascular disease. Sarcopenia.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Muscles.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Osteoporosis and cancer. Basically, all the top killers. If you want to get those top killers, have midlife inflammation. Inflammation, at any time it's bad news, but there's something especially bad about being highly inflamed in your midlife.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: It's gonna kill your heart, or your brain, or your immune system. It's gonna be a cancer.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Autoimmune.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Autoimmune [00:10:00] disorders. Kill your hormones, right? Inflammation in midlife kills your brain, so it's a brain killer. That's the fourth thing.

Now, let's talk about the fifth one. Insulin resistance. You and I talk every time about insulin, because it's involved in everything. When a person has high circulating insulin, they are at risk for a whole bunch of things in their brain. It does a lot of things. First of all ... Again, we're talking midlife [00:10:30] here, so I got a couple studies here talking about, if you in your midlife have elevated insulin, or insulin resistance, they've shown late life brain amyloid plaque accumulation. There's a correlation between the two. Think about that for a second.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: One of the distinguishing factors of Alzheimer's is the plaquing, right? They used to think that plaquing caused Alzheimer's, but what causes the plaquing? You can go all the way backwards, [00:11:00] but they're finding out that if you have insulin resistance ... Think of the diabetics, the metabolic syndromes, the pre-diabetes. All these people, if they have that in their midlife, they're gonna have plaquing in their brain later on.

Dr. Martin Sr.: You wonder if that doesn't get started early, and they just never look at ... They just really don't see it.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Well, because if you're a diabetic, you're not getting an MRI of your brain.

Dr. Martin Sr.: It's like scar tissue, right? Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: But you're putting it there. Yeah. You're right. Your brain is paying the price.

Dr. Martin Sr.: You know, it's like old injuries that you get. You hurt [00:11:30] your knee playing ball as a 20-year-old, and 40-year-old, now that really comes back to bite you when your knee, you can hardly go up stairs, and you got your bone-on-bone and scar tissues developed. Same thing in the brain, right? That stuff that the inflammation injures, right? It injures it over a period of time.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Yeah. It scars it up.

Dr. Martin Sr.: It scars it up.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Yeah. Battle wounds.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: But yeah, you're right. The interesting thing is, again, midlife insulin resistance increases [00:12:00] brain amyloid plaquing later in life. That's one thing insulin does. However, insulin also increases brain inflammation, and we just talked about the effect it has.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Talked about that. Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: It's a double whammy, but it's actually a triple whammy, because studies have shown this, and I found this interesting. High circulating insulin is associated with a shrinking of your brain, but specifically the area of your brain that's associated with memories.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: [00:12:30] Insulin causes plaquing. Insulin increases inflammation, and inflammation in midlife shrinks your brain, and insulin specifically causes an area of your brain to shrink that's associated with memory. It's a triple threat for your brain.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Which is why, I mean, it's not only your brain. We talk about insulin so much because it does-

Dr. Martin Sr.: You know, people say, "Don't you get tired of insulin?" But you know, I mean, every time you eat, you need insulin.

Dr. Martin Jr.: And we get questions about insulin [00:13:00] every day.

Dr. Martin Sr.: "Oh, insulin. Insulin." I know, but we've got degrees in nutrition. I mean, we gotta talk about food, because you are what you eat. You are what you absorb, and insulin, I know it sounds ... But it really is, it's not that complicated, right? It's not that complicated. If you're a bad eater, sugar is the new poison. Sugar is the new smoking, right? We talked about, especially in the last podcast, everybody and their dog knows that smoking's no [00:13:30] good for you. You don't have to go to a doctor to say, "Oh, yeah. You know what? Yeah. I want you to have a couple of cigarettes every day. It's good for you." No. All doctors know, anybody knows that smoking, no. It's not good for you. This is pet peeve. I just don't understand this whole marijuana thing. They're talking about ... And then they want people smoking. You know what I mean? That bothers me. If for nothing else, forget the drug. It's just the smoking [00:14:00] again. We already went through that. My dad, in 1962, I remember, I'll never forget it. I remember the day he came home and he said, "I'm never gonna smoke again." Threw his cigarettes away. I'm, "Dad, what are you, crazy? What am I gonna steal?" You know?

Dr. Martin Jr.: It's funny, because if you look back in the times of the World Wars, if you had asthma, they had you smoke. They think you're coughing it out, and they think you're-

Dr. Martin Sr.: Well, see, my dad, he had an ashtray in every one of his offices, [00:14:30] and his waiting room, his treatment rooms, his personal office. I mean, I grew up with that. It was nothing. My dad smoked. My mother smoked.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Well, you know what I tell my kids, is they don't have the privilege of eating a Tim Hortons donut without smoke in it as a kid. It's a funny thing, or I used to get a kick out of this. The smoking section in restaurants. You'd have a table. They're like, "Smoking or non-smoking?" You'd say, "non-smoking," so [00:15:00] they'd put you at a table, and then two feet over to your left the person's smoking.

Dr. Martin Sr.: They were smoking.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Like there's a magic air barrier that stops the smoking section. You know what's funny? Because we're so sensitive to smoke now, because you never-

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: I never have to smell smoke anymore, so when I do, it's overpowering. It's amazing how that used to be so much more common in restaurants, and people used to smoke on an airplane. I mean, it's such a funny thing. But you're right. I mean, smoking, they've shown [00:15:30] it, and that's the number one public health thing that they did, was cutting smoking cut a lot of diseases out, right?

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah. Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Now we're back to a whole bunch of different things, but yeah. Smoking will definitely shrink your brain, but insulin, like you said, insulin now, cutting insulin, like smoking, will cut a lot of risk factors down, but insulin definitely affects your brain. Now, all right. Here's the third thing, and it's along the same lines, and it [00:16:00] has to do with your blood glucose levels.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Right.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Here's the thing. Again, we're talking about midlife. Midlife diabetes. Let's talk about that first. Midlife diabetes. If you are in your 40s and 50s, and even 60s, according to the study, and you have diabetes, your risk of getting Alzheimer's or vascular dementia, they call it, goes up through the roof. This risk, and this is interesting. This is the study here. The risk [00:16:30] is stronger when diabetes occurs at midlife than in late life.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah. Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: If you get diabetes, and you're listening, and you have type two diabetes, your 50s, 60s, your brain's at risk, big time. If anything, you have to protect your brain and drastically change some things, but that's what this study ... There's a stronger association if you get it in your midlife, because again, there's something special about that midlife for brain health, right? It really sets it up.

But here's what I want to talk about specifically, [00:17:00] because not everybody's a diabetic. If you're a diabetic, your brain's at risk. That's a fact, but a lot of people don't realize this. Even if your blood glucose is normal, and there's been a few studies about this. High-normal blood glucose is associated with two things. Decreased brain volume, and cognitive performance in your 60s. If your blood sugar is normal, considered normal, it's not normal-

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah. It's not normal.

Dr. Martin Jr.: ... but it's elevated, but not [00:17:30] enough to be diagnosed with type two diabetes, so your doctor says, "You got a little pre-diabetes. Your blood sugar's a little elevated. It's a little off, but we'll monitor it and we'll pay attention, and when it becomes a problem, then we'll treat it with drugs." If you got high normal blood sugar, your brain is shrinking faster.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Think about it this way. As your blood glucose levels rise, your brain shrinks. If it's high all the time, even normal high, your brain [00:18:00] is shrinking. Then not only does it affect your, again, set you up for dementia, Alzheimer's, it also affects your cognitive performance in your 60s. In your 60s, when you start to all of a sudden ... Your cognition goes down, well, blood glucose has a lot to do with that. We talked about this previously, but the brain is an energy hog.

Dr. Martin Sr.: It picks up, what, 20-something percent of all the fuel?

Dr. Martin Jr.: Yeah. It's a few percentage of your body weight in total, but it takes up almost a quarter [00:18:30] of your energy. It needs a lot of energy, and when your blood glucose is messed up, your brain shrinks faster. I mean, it makes sense, because it's almost like the brain has to shrink in volume because it can't get the flow it needs, the energy it needs for a full brain volume, so it shrinks in size. I mean, that's not a scientific explanation, but that's kind of what's happening, right?

What's interesting is, this study was done ... I'm looking at one study here on brain [00:19:00] and normal blood glucose. This one was done back in 2013. Even back then, I'm just gonna read you what the authors, the researchers suggested. They say, "These findings here stress the need to reevaluate what is considered as healthy blood glucose levels, and consider the role of higher normal blood glucose and the risk factor for cerebral health, cognitive function, and dementia." They're even saying we should maybe tighten up what we consider normal.

Here's the dirty little trick. [00:19:30] A dirty little secret of medicine in general, when it comes to lab values. The way it works is, normal is what 95% of the population has. Then 2.5% is above, and 2.5% below. Take 100 people, and what 95% of them fall into what range, and then 2.5% is high, 2.5% is low. That's how it determines. As we get sicker, normal [00:20:00] shifts, because you can have 100 people and a majority of them are not healthy, but they affect what is viewed as normal, which is why, for example, the testosterone range is like, what, 200 to 1100? Because 95% of the males fit into that range.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: That's a big range. It should be a lot tighter than that. Glucose is the same way in a sense. Glucose range should be a lot tighter, because we're not meant to have a wild variety [00:20:30] and elevated normal blood sugar levels. What I'm saying is this. Bottom line is that high normal is not normal, because they've shown that even when it comes to your brain, your brain shrinks faster, and it affects your brain later in life.

Dr. Martin Sr.: That's what Dr. Kraft used to say, too, right? He was the guru of all gurus, and he said, "We got it all wrong, because," he said, "most people never get the diagnosis of diabetes, but they're diabetic already, [00:21:00] because they're in that high normal sugar." Right? It's normal, but he said it's already diabetes, because your body is already paying a price for that elevated glucose. We talk about this. Your body does everything in the universe it can to get sugar out of your bloodstream, so don't wait, folks, 'til you're a diabetic. Don't wait for a doctor to say, "Uh-oh. You're a diabetic. Now here you go. Here are some pills."

Treat yourself as a diabetic, and [00:21:30] say, "Look. If I'm eating too much sugar, if I'm eating too many crappy carbohydrates and that," you're a diabetic already. Just take it, face the facts, and don't negotiate with yourself. Be hard on yourself to some extent, because we're talking about, this is life and death stuff. You know-

Dr. Martin Jr.: Well, and this is how you enjoy your retirement.

Dr. Martin Sr.: You know what I mean? I always tell people in the office, "You can make a huge investment in your portfolio, in terms of money, and good for you, and [00:22:00] I'm not against that at all."

Dr. Martin Jr.: Well, that's what makes this ... You and I talked about this in the previous episode. That's what makes this difficult, because it's almost like talking to a 19-year-old about retiring, saving for retiring. They're like, "Man, come on. Really? I'm 19. That's like a million years from now."

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: "I don't want to talk about saving. It's so hard." But I'll tell you, you talk to somebody who's close to retirement, they wish they can go back and talk to their young self.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: The brain and your muscles, specifically, your brain and muscles work [00:22:30] like that. What you do when you're young determines your muscle health, which is your sarcopenia, and osteoporosis, the leading cause of disability in seniors, muscle wasting, and then brain.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: But again, it's hard, because who's thinking of their brain at 75, 80, when they're 45 and they got high blood pressure, and they got inflammation, and their sugar levels are a little bit elevated, but not enough to be diabetic, and they're not going to the gym, they got weak muscles, they don't [00:23:00] got a lot of muscle mass, and then they're in that statistic that they're gonna be that 50% at 85 that has dementia, Alzheimer's. People are gonna be like, "I don't know what happened."

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah. But you want a brain, and you know what I mean? I'll tell you, one of the biggest fears there are for people, and it's getting younger and younger, because I think people are much more ... With social media, and the internet, and all this and that, people do talk about the importance of their brain health. We love that. I mean, choices give [00:23:30] you power. It's better, like I say, they have a heads up.

Dr. Martin Jr.: I'm 45 years old, and I'm starting now to think more seriously about my brain health. I'm 45, and I'm starting ... One of the downside of reading all these studies is, a lot of these studies are warning me at my age not to have these things, so I'm starting to think about my brain health a lot more than I used to. I'll tell you, I never thought about my brain health in my 30s, ever. [00:24:00] Ever. Unless I had a concussion. That's the only time I worried about brain health. I never worried about dementia, Alzheimer's. I'm 45. I'm starting to think about that more often. I'm starting to, "Ooh. I can't forget. I gotta take my DHA every day." Right? "I gotta make sure I take my curcumin. I gotta make sure I take my pine bark. I gotta make sure ..." We even created a nootropic, our enhanced formula specifically for 40-plus years olds, we built that for ourselves, right?

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah. You gotta be sharp.

Dr. Martin Jr.: I looked at ... Yeah. But it's amazing, but [00:24:30] here's the bottom line. If you're listening, and you're in your midlife, and you have those things, especially multiple of those things, then you want to fix them. You want to get on it. You want to fix them now, then your chances of getting dementia, Alzheimer's, decrease drastically. Now, we can't 100% say you're not gonna get it, but if those six risk factors are not there, your brain's gonna be pretty healthy, and a lot of other parts of you as well.

All right. Now we're out of time, so [00:25:00] what can you do to protect your brain? You and I, we have a video on our website. It was a webinar that you and I did. You can get it for free on our website. It's called Age-Proof Your Brain. We reverse engineer dementia, Alzheimer's, talk about all these things we've talked about, and then we give you practical nutrition, and then also nutrients, supplements that we recommend in our clinic for brain health. Go to our website,, and you can sign up, [00:25:30] get a free ... You can watch the video for free, and it has all the information that we have in our clinic that we openly share with people, right? They can do with it what they want.

Now, again, we're not telling you that it's gonna replace your doctor. We're not saying that. It's just, it's for informational purposes, but there's a lot of good information in there.

Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah. Good education.

Dr. Martin Jr.: You can go to our website and you can get that there. Again, we want to thank you for listening to this two-part series, and have a great day.

Dr. Martin Sr.: [00:26:00] Thanks for listening to The Doctor Is In Podcast from If you have any questions, you can reach us at If you're not a newsletter subscriber, you can head to our website and sign up for free. We also have a private Facebook group that you can join. It's a community of awesome people. Finally, I do a Facebook Live every Thursday morning at 8:30. Join us again next week for a new episode.

Jan 24, 2019

In this episode we talk about 6 midlife brain killers. What you do in your 40's, 50's, and 60's determines the health of your brain in your 70's and 80's.

50% of seniors over 85 have Alzheimer's. If you want to live longer it's important you protect your brain.

In part 1 we talk about the first three midlife brain killers...

Muscle Mass

Muscle Strength

High Blood Pressure

A problem in any of these three in your midlife will significantly increase your risk of dementia or Alzheimer's.

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Hello, I'm Dr. Martin Jr.

Dr.Martin Sr.: I'm Dr. Martin Sr.

Dr. Martin Jr.: And, this is The Doctor Is In podcast. This is [00:00:30] episode 169. Today, we want to talk about the brain specifically, but more importantly we want to talk about this concept that you and I were talking about off air. It has to do with this, what you do in your 40s and 50s and really early 60s, but what you do in your 40s and 50s and let's just say 60s determines how healthy your brain is in your 70s and 80s. Now, there is a statistic that 50% of seniors [00:01:00] over the age of 85 have Alzheimer's. We all talk about wanting to live longer. If you ask somebody oh they like to live to 90 or whatever, but 50% of people over the age of 85 have Alzheimer. So, you want to live longer but you definitely want to have your brain.

Dr.Martin Sr.: You don't want somebody changing your diapers.

Dr. Martin Jr.: No, exactly.

Dr.Martin Sr.: [inaudible 00:01:22] what I mean.

Dr. Martin Jr.: It's such a side thing, right? So, you and I have talked about this before. It's kind of interesting. So, if we talk [00:01:30] about aging in general, anti aging in general, how you look like aesthetically, skin, health, all that stuff in your 40s, 50s, and 60s has to do with lifestyle habits. So, smoking, drinking, exercise, sugar content, stuff like that. When somebody is like ... looks really old in their 50s or they look really old in their 40s, 60s, that's lifestyle stuff generally speaking. [00:02:00] That's just like I said that's smoking. That's-

Dr.Martin Sr.: Bad eating.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Yeah, bad eating, drinking, and they didn't exercise. All right. So, that's aesthetically. Now, in your 70s is when you start to see a big difference mobility wise. So, a lot of people in their 60s, if they're average size, average everything, can move around. When they stop to be able to move around is really in their 70s when you see a mobility issue. Again, what you do in your 40s and 50s and 60s [00:02:30] really determines how you move in your 70s which is we don't think that, but that's ... if you're listening now and you're in your 40s and 50s, how you move in your 70s really you're laying the foundation for that now. Oftentimes, people don't think about that. Now, when it comes to your brain and we're going to through the research on this, but when it comes to your brain, how your brain functions in your 70s and 80s [00:03:00] is determined by your 40s, 50s, and 60s.

Dr.Martin Sr.: Your habits.

Dr. Martin Jr.: That's what we're going to talk about because there are six midlife brain killers that we call them. So, six things that happen in midlife, so 40s, 50s that can kill your brain in your 70s and 80s. That's the reality, right? That's what's going on. So, we get a lot of questions about brain health. Okay, listen. If you're in your 70s and your brain is starting to slip, [00:03:30] there are things you can do, but you have to be very purposeful about it. You have to go really low carb. You have to cut out sugar. You have to take a lot of DHA. You have to get rid of inflammation. There's a lot of things you have to do. More aggressively you have to do but you can definitely and we have a lot of people tell us when they do those things, their brain functions a lot better and they pass a lot more of these testing that they have done. So, for sure, but what we're saying is this.

If you want to have a healthy brain, [00:04:00] if you want your brain to last as long as your bod does, then you have to pay attention to these six midlife brain killers because they will absolutely destroy your brain when your older. So, we'll talk about those. We'll try to get through them in this episode. If not, maybe we'll carry it over to a second episode, because it is important, because this really is ... you think of the heart, right? People are worried about their heart, but I'll tell you. If you go look at the cause of death charts, [00:04:30] well, I'll pull one up as we're talking here.

I've been collecting these ... sounds morbid but it's really not that morbid. I have like the top causes of death. So, I have ... right in front of me, I pulled up three charts. Ten leading cause of death in the 1900s, 10 leading cause of deaths the year 2000 and then 10 leading cause of death in the year 2016 I think it is. Yes. I'll tell you ... here we go. So, I got the 1900s. [00:05:00] Alzheimer's is climbing that list. Back in the 1900s, everything was an infection. The top killers pneumonia, influenza, tuberculosis, diarrhea. Then you got disease of the heart, then accidents and cancer was way down the list.

Dr.Martin Sr.: We were one of the first ones to coin, right? I like that. I remember one time when you had ... it really came out of you but I love that. It was inflammation without infection, right?

Dr. Martin Jr.: Yeah. That's what it was.

Dr.Martin Sr.: Sickness [00:05:30] without infection, because like you said, if you look back at the 1900s and before antibiotics especially, people died and they died young but it's because they got infection.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Yes. So, back then, everything was ... the top killers you were likely to die from an infection of some kind, right? That wasn't-

Dr.Martin Sr.: It wasn't heart disease.

Dr. Martin Jr.: No.

Dr.Martin Sr.: It wasn't cancer.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Then there was a switch around the 50s when all of a sudden, infections weren't the leading cause of death anymore. Inflammation became the leading cause. So, inflammation [00:06:00] is the new fever, right?

Dr.Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: I've talked about that and I find that interesting. Back in the early 1900s, you got a fever. You had an infection and your body tried to fight it. Then either you did or you didn't. Now, people still get fevers. They get the flu and stuff like that, but now we're loaded with inflammation. The top killers are all inflammatory based. They just show up differently. You can have them under the same heading as inflammation, but ... so in the year 2000, [00:06:30] heart disease is number one. Strokes, then you get into lower respiratory infections. They go down the list, but nowhere in the top 10 is anywhere with Alzheimer's.

Dr.Martin Sr.: Nothing to do with your brain.

Dr. Martin Jr.: No, nothing and then worldwide, diabetes is not even on the list.

Dr.Martin Sr.: Yeah, 2000.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Now, 2018 in the United States. So, it's heat disease again.

Dr.Martin Sr.: Cancer.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Yeah. Cancer, accidents, [00:07:00] just unintentional injuries, chronic lower respiratory disease, a lot of people at the end of their life they get an infection and die.

Dr.Martin Sr.: They get pneumonia and they die.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Yeah.

Dr.Martin Sr.: That's a big cause of death.

Dr. Martin Jr.: But, on the list, Alzheimer's, past diabetes and then diabetes. So, Alzheimer's is in the top killers. Diabetes is as well.

Dr.Martin Sr.: We would say, okay, again, just because I find it interesting, because what you and [00:07:30] I would say and the Martin Clinic have this for a long time that even the top ones that are at the top like heart disease, most of it the inflammation didn't come out of nowhere, we would say that most of it was due to high circulating insulin. They were a diabetic, they just never got diagnosed, right? So, when you see diabetes down the list a little bit, in terms of what caused the killing, but a lot of people have heart disease just as an aside because they have high circulating insulin. [00:08:00] It was the sugar that was killing them. They just never got the diagnosis. They were literally a diabetic without getting the diagnosis.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Yeah. Here's the thing. When it comes to even the heart disease, really the two main causes of heart disease is insulin or inflammation. Insulin can lead to inflammation, but there are other things that can cause heart disease because of inflammation. So, it is interesting. Yeah, a lot of ... like these killers can all be classified as a form of inflammation [00:08:30] because at the root of them is inflammation, but the cause of the inflammation can vary from condition to condition. So, those are the top killers, right? Alzheimer's is climbing that list. We know that it's an epidemic. It's becoming a real problem. If you read research, drugs are failing miserably. In fact, I was just reading about a big company that had a lot of money riding on a drug trial and they pulled the plug on it. They cannot treat yet [00:09:00] in any way Alzheimer's with drugs. They're not reversing Alzheimer's with drugs. So, your best bet is still natural eating. In fact-

Dr.Martin Sr.: Lifestyle.

Dr. Martin Jr.: A lot of drugs people are taking are actually causing the dementia. It's a big chunk of that, right? So, that's a whole other ... and I think we did an episode on that a long time ago talking about the common drugs that can affect your brain. So, it is interesting, but nevertheless, what you do now, so if you're listening you're in your 40s, your 50s and even early 60s, [00:09:30] what you do now will really ultimately determine the health of your brain, because remember, you and I in our training on our website we have this called age proof your brain. In there there's a graphic where we talk about the normal effects of aging. So, there are certain things that happen as we age that are considered normal. Now, one of the things for example is muscle wasting to a certain extent. Its harder to maintain muscle as you age because your muscle wastes as you age. It doesn't mean you can't maintain it, [00:10:00] however, it's harder to maintain it. Now, it's interesting.

You get to a certain age like early 60s, late 50s, the person has the same frame they've always had, right? Then they get to late 60s, early 70s, if they don't have a lot of muscle mass, also and they look small, they just look shrunken in a sense, right? They don't have that frame anymore. It's because they went into that crucial time in their life where mobility matters and they [00:10:30] didn't have that foundation of muscle there to begin with. So, muscle wasting is a normal aspect of aging. What's abnormal is when you lose too much. That happens to a lot of people. Other things that happen normally when you age, your lung volume decreases. Your VO2 max as they say decreases as you age. Your ability to produce and secrete digestive enzyme decreases which compounds the problem, because it leads to less digestion, less nutrients and-

Dr.Martin Sr.: Especially for [00:11:00] protein and your amino acids that you need. You're not taking them up. Your essential vitamins like the people are chronically low in B12 which is a real thing for every part of your body including your brain.

Dr. Martin Jr.: We're going to do an upcoming episode on the effect that has on aging, but specifically low stomach acid and gallbladder, because as you and I, we talk about this. We get fascinated about that stuff, but it really is the cause of a lot of issues for people. It's such an undiagnosed, untalked [00:11:30] about thing. Rarely do we find somebody over the age of 40 that has a fully functional normal stomach acid and gallbladder. So, a lot of the symptoms we get are associated with that. Then, one more thing that happens as we age that's normal is the volume of our brain. Our brain actually shrinks. That's somewhat normal. It becomes a problem though because a lot and lifestyle things will actually shrink our brain faster. When that happens, [00:12:00] you're in trouble, right?

So, here are some of the biggest threats to your brain. I'm not talking about midlife things. Here's what you have to protect against in general. These four things really will kill your brain as you age. They'll kill it. So, brain shrinkage, right? We just mentioned it. Your brain naturally shrinks as you age, but there's a lot of things and we're going to talk about these in a minute, but there's a lot of things that can speed that up. So, [00:12:30] excessive brain shrinkage will cause dementia Alzheimer's. That's one. Inflammation is another. Inflammation is a brain killer. Well, any inflammation really.

Dr.Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Inflammation of the brain will lead to dementia Alzheimer's, right? Insulin, we talked about that. Too much circulating insulin messes your brain up and it actually will shrink your brain faster as well, but also affects the way you use energy in the brain and your brain is the energy hog. So, a lot of issues with that as well. [00:13:00] Then there's a fourth thing and it's really coming to the news more lately. So, I gave it its own category. The fourth thing is infection, an infection of the brain. You know it's funny because they're starting to see that candida can cross the blood brain barrier.

Dr.Martin Sr.: Yeah, we talked about that.

Dr. Martin Jr.: We read another study a while ago. This brain researcher saying that the things that they're finding in the brain now are scary, that are living in the brain.

Dr.Martin Sr.: They always thought the brain was sterile, there's be nothing in it.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Yeah. Anything but no. In fact, there's a [00:13:30] study going on at Harvard called the brain microbiome project.

Dr.Martin Sr.: So, it's looking at the bacteria in the brain and there's something that came out too that I saw the other day, like even you get a root canal done, right? You get bacteria siting in there. They were talking about it being one of the root causes of heart disease, but you and I know better that once that stuff gets into your blood stream and it gets across that blood brain barrier because you don't have that bacteria, the microbiome, you don't have the wall, [00:14:00] the gatekeepers at the wall to keep that stuff out of your brain, and we've talked about this too. Now, add heavy metals like mercury and lead and cadmium and stuff like that-

Dr. Martin Jr.: Well, and what you just described we have a series coming out next week. So, we're recording this in January but we have an email series coming out next week talking about autoimmune disorders. What you just described is one path of getting an autoimmune disorder. These things get into the blood. [00:14:30] They cause inflammation. That messes up the way your immune system works and it starts to attack its own cells. So, it's interesting. So, those are the four things that really ultimately lead to dementia Alzheimer's. So, your brain shrinks too fast, inflammation, infection, and high insulin.

Dr.Martin Sr.: Yeah. Again, let's just for a second on candida because people said you seek ... they accuse me of seeing candida behind [00:15:00] every tree type of thing, but I always tell people, "Look, what is the most insidious thing that happens in your body that people just ... " It was so off the charts for most physicians, they just couldn't see it, because they always said, "Nah." Today, what is so prevalent is fungus. It's a fungal candida. Yeast gets into your bloodstream and it's worse than a parasite in my opinion, because almost everything you eat feeds it, [00:15:30] and the overuse of antibiotics and these pain killers and like you say all these drugs, most of it creates an atmosphere in your body that makes it conducive to candida. You talked about the gallbladder and that's a problem because the candida should never even ... you wrote a tremendous [crosstalk 00:15:51]

Dr. Martin Jr.: Well, and they have a ... your body has a bunch of fail safes. You may consume candida but it should never get into your blood unless the fail safes aren't working. The initial [00:16:00] fail safes is the acid in your stomach and your gallbladder. So, when those things aren't doing their job which very few people have a normal functioning stomach acid and a normal gallbladder, but even then, then it gets into your gut, and then there's a barrier between your gut and your blood that should never get past ... it should never pass through, but guess what? It does. So, now, there's a-

Dr.Martin Sr.: So microscopic that [crosstalk 00:16:26]

Dr. Martin Jr.: All your fail safes aren't working, and then they get into your body. It's [00:16:30] funny, because blood used to be sterile. Now, we know things can transport there. Brain, no way, brain sterile. Now, I read a study maybe a year and a half ago talking about the percentage of Parkinson that had fungus in the brain. They didn't even attribute it to that. They just said, "Oh, that's kind of weird. A lot of them do have some fungus." So, is it possible that some people have Parkinson's because of fungus? Absolutely. Absolutely, right?

Dr.Martin Sr.: Big time.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Do some people have Alzheimer's and dementia because of fungus? Yes, they do. [00:17:00] Just like they have other symptoms in their body, but yes, that's the reality we live in. So, infection is a big brain killer. Then, we talk about insulin. All right. Now, for the rest of this podcast because we have been going on a little bit here, we'll talk about three midlife brain killers in this episode and then in the next episode, we'll finish it off and then talk about how you can help your brain.

So, let's talk the first three brain killers. We might as well talk about the study that kind [00:17:30] of brought this on the first place because I find this interesting. So, I'm just going to read a study that we came across. It says this, "Leg exercise is critical to brain and nervous system health." There is a brain leg access. What they found is that weight bearing exercises for legs, right? Everybody hates leg day. Leg day, I'll tell you I did leg day on ... just two days ago and I'm still sore. I [00:18:00] hate doing legs. I do. You know what? Now, after reading the study when I do legs-

Dr.Martin Sr.: Now, you're encouraged to do them, right?

Dr. Martin Jr.: Yeah, because now I'm thinking, "I'm helping my brain. I'm helping my brain. I'm ensuring a longer healthier brain." What they found is when you do these weight bearing and resistant type of exercises, it's funny. There's a connection between the brain and the leg. What they're finding out it's actually vital for the production of healthy neural cells. So, when you do leg exercises, you're actually [00:18:30] exercising your brain as well. So, think about this. The volume of leg muscles and it'd be an interesting study to look at the correlation. Again, it'd be hard to prove but the amount of people with Alzheimer's that have not enough leg muscle, what percentage-

Dr.Martin Sr.: Oftentimes when I see it in the office, a lot of times you see a lot of sarcopenia with that.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Well, that's the anatomy.

Dr.Martin Sr.: They are just wasted away.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Yeah.

Dr.Martin Sr.: Now, they didn't get wasted away. They were wasted away before the brain [00:19:00] went in a lot of ways. They were that really aged body like you said. Yeah, there's youth correlation with that.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Yeah, okay. So, the first midlife brain killer they found that midlife muscle mass is correlated to brain volume on the back end of your life. That's interesting.

Dr.Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: So, again, when you go to the gym and you're working your muscles, [00:19:30] remember, you're working your brain. That's the first thing. So, just the muscle mass. I'm not talking about strength because we're going to talk about strength in a second, but muscle mass. So, even I'm going to read you just a headline of a study that says that if you're in your 60s and 70s right now and you're listening, you can actually lower your risk of dementia by simply maintaining muscle mass. Think about that. That's such a weird thing to think about.

Dr.Martin Sr.: Who would ever thought of the connection?

Dr. Martin Jr.: [00:20:00] Yeah. Again, it goes to show you how important muscles, right? How-

Dr.Martin Sr.: Well, we talked about that even in osteoporosis, right?

Dr. Martin Jr.: Yes.

Dr.Martin Sr.: We talked about leg. Just don't think bone. You're thinking bone. We're thinking about like your bone has got a lot-

Dr. Martin Jr.: What percentage of people have osteoporosis and not sarcopenia? Not much.

Dr.Martin Sr.: No. It'd be a rare exception.

Dr. Martin Jr.: So, the first midlife brain killer is muscle. If you don't have enough of it, your brain is at risk. Let's just say that. There's study just showing that. Now, [00:20:30] staying on that theme of muscle, so you need muscle mass. The second thing is they're showing a direct correlation between stronger muscles. They've shown this. We talked about this in a previous episode. Strong muscles equals strong brain. We talked about strong muscles equals strong heart, because studies have shown that as well, but stronger muscles lead to a stronger brain. In fact, even a recent study was done one out in Australia and they found that when you increase [00:21:00] muscle strength, it actually improves your cognition, what I find is interesting. For a while when Alzheimer's and dementia was starting to really climb and people are getting worried about it, they were selling a lot of these apps and a lot of these computer games that would get the brain thinking, right? These puzzle thing.

Dr.Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: I'm not knocking those in any way, but they'd be better off going to the gym for an hour for their brain. No question. There's no question. They'd be better off going to the gym for an hour [00:21:30] and-

Dr.Martin Sr.: Yeah. So, when you're sitting there and doing a puzzle or doing word things or whatever, you're sitting there. You're defeating maybe the purpose of exactly what you're trying to accomplish, right?

Dr. Martin Jr.: Yep. So, they'd be better off. So, the first two midlife brain killers are this, one decrease muscle mass. You're going to have an increase risk of dementia Alzheimer's, decrease muscle strength. Not only are you going to have a hard time moving around in your 70s. The first two things that we just talked about [00:22:00] will guaranty that you're not going to have a pleasant 70s. You're not going to move around, but it also guaranties your brain is not going to be there when you need it, right? So, those are the first two things. So, we'll talk about one more and then we'll wrap this one up and then we'll finish off with the other three, because ... The other one is this. Midlife high blood sure-

Dr.Martin Sr.: Kills.

Dr. Martin Jr.: ... significantly increases your risk of dementia later in life. So, if you have high blood pressure in your 40s, 50s, and 60s, you're going to have dementia in your [00:22:30] 70s and 80s. That's how it works. So, blood pressure is not only a cardiovascular warning, it's a check engine light. It's a check engine light for your brain.

Dr.Martin Sr.: Crazy, but again, you think of it, we always said, "Well, what is the biggest indicator of ... or the number cause of high blood pressure is insulin." Right? It's the number one cause, high circulating insulin.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Yeah. High blood pressure is an indication that you have too much insulin for [00:23:00] a majority of the people.

Dr.Martin Sr.: It's not the only thing.

Dr. Martin Jr.: No, but it's a big chunk. It's the 80-20 rule for sure.

Dr.Martin Sr.: Yeah. You got bad genetics or whatever and you say, "Well, bad genetics." Well, yeah but that's a small part of what's going on. Really, lifestyle is you got high blood pressure. You're under a lot of stress or you got high circulate ... the perfect storm is high circulating insulin, you're a bad eater and you got stress. Add that to the mix and you got trouble coming.

Dr. Martin Jr.: So, [00:23:30] again, how many people in their 40s and 50s have high blood pressure? Fair amount.

Dr.Martin Sr.: Yeah.

Dr. Martin Jr.: So, that's a check engine light for your brain. High blood pressure is a check engine light for your brain and it significantly increases your risk. Now, here's what I find interesting and we're going to carry this conversation over because it's going to apply to the other three after. Here's the thing and this is the kicker. High blood pressure increases your risk of dementia Alzheimer's, however, studies have shown that. That's a fact, but what new studies are ... what [00:24:00] they're looking at now and they're also finding high normal blood pressure. So, you're not even diagnosed with hypertension. So, you have normal blood pressure, but it's a little bit elevated but not diagnosed also increases your risk of dementia Alzheimer's. It's amazing.

So, high normal blood pressure will increase your risk of dementia later in life. So, you don't even have to have hypertension. You can have consistently higher than normal, and what's normal? [00:24:30] Depends on the person. It really does. Hypertension is 140/90. That's when they start to diagnose you with hypertension, but even if you're not 140/90, you can still be putting your brain at risk. So, it's normal. That's interesting. Goes to show you how-

Dr.Martin Sr.: Well, it's like blood sugar, right?

Dr. Martin Jr.: Yeah. That's exactly what we're going to talk about in the next-

Dr.Martin Sr.: [inaudible 00:24:54] like you.

Dr. Martin Jr.: Also, let's just recap the three and then we'll end with that. Muscle mass, muscle strength [00:25:00] and high blood pressure are midlife brain killers. If those are off, your chance of being in the 50% of 85 that have dementia are ... you're in that 50%. You're in that 50%. All right. So, we're out of time in this one. We'll wrap up this discussion on the next one, then we'll talk about also how to protect your brain. So, again, thank you for listening and have a great day.

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