In this podcast episode we talk about menopause.
Some may go through menopause with very little symptoms. But, for many, their experience is unpleasant.
We talk about what's normal and what isn't.
We discuss the connection between menopause and your thyroid and why it can lead to hypothyroidism.
We also talk about what you can do to help balance your hormones as you go through menopause.
Dr. Martin, Jr.: You're listening to the Doctor's In Podcast from Martinclinic.com. Although we share a lot of practical and, in our opinion, awesome information, what you hear on this podcast is not intended to diagnose, cure, treat or prevent any disease. It's strictly for informational purposes so enjoy.
Hi, I'm Dr. Martin, Jr.
Dr. Martin, Sr.: Dr. Martin, Sr.
Dr. Martin, Jr.: This is the Doctor is In Podcast and this [00:00:30] is Episode 165. Now today, we're actually near the end of 2018 which is just incredible to think about. We're recording this episode, it's towards the end of December less than a week away from Christmas. It just seems like this year ... I remember recording the first podcast of this year, I mean, that's how fast this has gone by.
Dr. Martin, Sr.: Yep.
Dr. Martin, Jr.: Today, what we want to do is we want to talk about something that we get asked a lot via email, a lot of times via live [00:01:00] chat on our website. We see this a lot in the clinic and it has to do with menopause, so today we're gonna talk about menopause and, specifically, what is normal, what's abnormal, and what might be due to something else. That's one of the tricky things with menopause, is you like about the Bermuda triangle or hormones which is the connection that the adrenals, and the ovaries, and the thyroid have, so when any one of those things [00:01:30] get affected the other two go along with it. It's rare that a person that has a lot of menopausal symptoms don't have other issues but we'll talk about that.
The first thing I want to do is if somebody comes in to see you, so they come in to see you and they start talking about menopause. They say, "I'm menopausal and I have these symptoms." What in your head triggers something that says, "Okay, this is more than it should be, this is more than normal, there's something else going on or there's something ... "
Dr. Martin, Sr.: Yeah. Listen, just to make people understand. Women know this [00:02:00] but we're just gonna, we'll give you a little. From the day you ovulate until the day you die, ladies, you need to have estrogen and progesterone. Those come out of the ovaries and those are hormones that you absolutely need to have balance. From the day you have your first period until the day you have your last period, you've got to have estrogen and progesterone functioning at the same level.
Menopause, what is that? Obviously, menopause [00:02:30] is when now you're not going to be secreting near as much estrogen and near as much progesterone, you're not going to have a baby, and you're getting older. It's very, very normal, menopause is normal, it's just stop having a period, it's just simple as that. Your body is lowering its levels of estrogen and progesterone and I have a lot of patients that menopause, they were [00:03:00] praying for it. They said, "I don't want to have anymore menses, I'm tired of that, and blah, blah, blah. I'm praying for menopause,"
I always say this. I say, "Be careful what you're praying for because menopause can be a wonderful thing because, hey, no more periods, blah, blah, blah, ladies, but you better be balanced." If there's any imbalance ... I always say it's almost like you're flying in an airplane and everything is smooth, and then all of a sudden you hit turbulence. Then [00:03:30] you're holding onto the seat, you're going up and down and that's what can happen as a woman's body starts to change. If everything is equal, estrogen/progesterone are equal, smooth sailing, very little turbulence.
They might get the odd [inaudible 00:03:45] flash, they might get a little bit of night sweats at night, but generally they're feeling very good. Their energy is good, they don't have any big changes in moods, and they don't have any belly fat that's coming on or whatever. These are [00:04:00] symptoms that when you know you hit turbulence, in terms of hormones, is when you literally think, for some women, that they've been invaded. Like somebody from outer space has come over and ...
Dr. Martin, Jr.: The body snatchers.
Dr. Martin, Sr.: The body snatchers have come over and taken over their body. They're moody. I mean, they are literally up and down, they can fly off the handle in five seconds. They can have anxiety ...
Dr. Martin, Jr.: That tells you that they've [00:04:30] got a problem with cortisol which we'll talk about.
Dr. Martin, Sr.: Yeah.
Dr. Martin, Jr.: Big time.
Dr. Martin, Sr.: Right. A lot of them cortisol, a lot of them are thyroid symptoms where they're gaining weight. I mean, "Doc, I never gained weight. I always had the same pair of jeans and the same size," and all of a sudden they got belly fat, well that's cortisol but even hair loss. Their hair's thinning out, they're dry, dry, dry, dry, dry, so sexually think about that. Their skin is dry [00:05:00] and their lubrication is something they're missing and sex can become painful for a woman. It's very traumatic, think about that.
Men, what do we got? Men, we don't have anything like that. They said there's such a thing as andropause for a man ...
Dr. Martin, Jr.: Which would be the testosterone issue that a lot of men experience.
Dr. Martin, Sr.: Yeah, yeah, and they can get that.
Dr. Martin, Jr.: Yeah.
Dr. Martin, Sr.: Sure enough, they have symptoms but we're big babies.
Dr. Martin, Jr.: We're not supposed to admit that publicly, that's something that is ...
Dr. Martin, Sr.: But we're woman doctors.
Dr. Martin, Jr.: [00:05:30] That's a code that's been passed down from generation to generation, we're never supposed to publicly admit that. It's ...
Dr. Martin, Sr.: But my wife and your mother knows, and I'm sure your wife knows we're big babies compared to them. Anyway.
Dr. Martin, Jr.: See, science would back us up a little bit because the concept of the man [inaudible 00:05:49], it is a funny thing. There's actually a lot of funny memes or little funny pictures that ... I like to put one up every once in awhile because it's funny. It just says, "Only after the experience of childbirth [00:06:00] can a woman even slightly understand what men go through when they have a fever." We are, we're big babies. We'll be the first to admit that.
Dr. Martin, Sr.: Oh yeah, for sure, for sure.
Big changes, so it depends on, remember now, the cause is imbalance. It's not disease, menopause is not a disease. It is imbalance, it is a fluctuation.
Dr. Martin, Jr.: Which is why menopause, the generic term menopause, in a sense, is a symptom of an unbalance, [00:06:30] like you mentioned, right? It really is ... When somebody has a very unpleasant menopause or really peri-menopause is really what's going on, it tells you they're unbalanced.
Dr. Martin, Sr.: Yeah. Oh, for sure, it's just coming out. Again, just on a little bit of a negative side, when you look at the, just off the top, some of the things that are done, you have thousands, and thousands, and thousands, and thousands of women that are put on antidepressants. They live on antidepressants [00:07:00] for hormonal issues. Really, they've hit turbulence and they are put on ... You hear a knock in the engine and let's turn the radio up because you didn't fix it, you didn't balance out the hormones, and that is a major issue or can be, especially in menopause, where you don't feel good, and your energy is not what it used to be. You're not sleeping, obviously, if you've got ... Think of those symptoms of hot flashes, and night [00:07:30] sweats, and you're hot, you're cold, and the covers are off and the covers are on, and your fluctuation body temperatures, weight gain.
I always tell women, "My goal for you is to be healthy and balanced," and then the patient stops me and says, "Okay doc," "Yeah, and?" "When am I gonna lose weight?" I'll say, "Well, you're hormonal. Your hormones are off balance and that's a big issue when it comes to that. These are all possible symptoms, some of them are caused ... We [00:08:00] always say cortisol is, it's the accelerant. You've already got an imbalance because of estrogen/progesterone and listen, the other treatment, just to come back, one of the things that doctors like to do is to put women on estrogen, and synthetic estrogen.
Dr. Martin, Jr.: That's got a long, bad history.
Dr. Martin, Sr.: Listen, they are warned with their lives, doctors. You've got to be careful with giving out that stuff. They don't necessarily like to give it but they, "What am I gonna [00:08:30] do, I've got to get ..." I'm very careful with estrogen. Usually the problem is you already got too much estrogen. It's not estrogen, per se, it's the imbalance.
Dr. Martin, Jr.: That's something that I think needs to be said or explained because this is something that people have a hard time understanding. They think menopause, they naturally associate I'm losing estrogen, and then they get all the symptoms of estrogen dominance and it's like, "Well, that doesn't make sense. How could I be estrogen dominant yet I have less estrogen." Here's the thing, [00:09:00] what's happening in menopause is they lose the estrogen, as you mentioned, and they don't make as much progesterone.
Estrogen dominance doesn't necessarily have to do with the amount of estrogen you have but only the amount you have in relation to progesterone. You could be estrogen dominant and have less estrogen but you have even less progesterone and so you get estrogen dominant symptoms.
Dr. Martin, Sr.: As you're getting older, you're going to have less estrogen, that's normal, it's part of menopause. You're going to ... [00:09:30] Or peri-menopause you're gonna have less estrogen. That's not the key, the key is how much ... The progesterone is always the one that levels those two out, you've got to have, it's like a teeter totter, you've got to have both. If you're up with estrogen, you're going to be down with progesterone because it's always in relationship. By the way, I don't know if I've ever seen this, and I mean that. I don't know if I've ever seen some woman ... No, I can't say that I have, with too much [00:10:00] progesterone, where they're secreting too much progesterone ... I just haven't seen it so the key is estrogen, the key is balance. These are some of the main, main symptoms that grow.
Dr. Martin, Jr.: Seems like such an increase in peri-menopausal symptoms in women. As you mentioned, there's an accelerant which just makes things worse, which is cortisol. What's interesting is cortisol and progesterone, they are made from the same, they call it the mother hormone [00:10:30] which is a pregnenolone. Think about it. If you always need to make more cortisol, you're gonna do that at the expense of making progesterone so you can imagine ...
Dr. Martin, Sr.: That's why women are so different. Stress hits them so much differently than a man.
Dr. Martin, Jr.: Yeah. Stress in a guy can affect their testosterone levels, and it can affect their insulin levels, and it can do a whole bunch of stuff there, but with women it hits them in that Bermuda triangle of hormones that you always talk about. It accelerates that problem [00:11:00] and then it will make menopause that much worse. There was an interesting study that was done that looked at, basically, the greater amount of hot flashes and the intensity of it and they looked at the cortisol patterns of all these women. Of course, the study's saying it might be more of a cortisol problem.
Dr. Martin, Sr.: Is it more stress than it is ... Is it more stress than it is ...
Dr. Martin, Jr.: It's just that when you're menopausal or peri-menopausal, stress will give you night sweats and hot flashes. [00:11:30] When you're younger, less of that but it will still give you different symptoms, which makes it very interesting. Stress ... Cortisol will make menopause nuclear, makes it that much worse.
Dr. Martin, Sr.: The accelerant.
Dr. Martin, Jr.: Their night sweats are worse, their insomnia's worse, all those things get worse they're going through because of too much cortisol, which is interesting. All right, so we talked about the symptoms, abnormal symptoms in a sense. If somebody comes in, these are abnormal symptoms, right? [00:12:00] What's your approach to this?
Dr. Martin, Sr.: Well, again, I like to look at ... Functional medicine is always looking at symptoms and seeing what is the primary factor because sometimes ... We talked about it. You can have three things really get messed up, your estrogen/ progesterone levels, your thyroid levels, and your cortisol which is coming out of your adrenal glands. By the way, ladies, a lot of women go, "Why am I having trouble, I had [00:12:30] a hysterectomy." You would think everything's gonna be hunky-dory but what has to be taken into account, and women often don's know this because nobody's told them, is that yeah, you might ... Even if you've had a complete hysterectomy, that doesn't mean that you're not secreting any more estrogen or progesterone because your body has Plan B.
Your adrenal glands will take over and make sure that you are secreting. You're not gonna secrete obviously as much [00:13:00] as you used to have but even ... Because a lot of women, they have a partial hysterectomy and they have, because of either endometriosis or they had terrible bleeding, they were anemic, they had polycystic ovarian or whatever, and maybe they saved one ovary and the other one's gone and they ... but, because I've had women say, "Well, if I have a hysterectomy everything's gonna be perfect after that."
What they don't realize is, yeah, but you've got to remember, you've still got [00:13:30] your adrenals and you've still got your thyroid. Your body will still secrete some estrogen and progesterone because you've got Plan B so don't think ... If you're out of balance and you, obviously if you had a hysterectomy you were out of balance, you had way too much estrogen. Compared to your progesterone, that's the cause of any kind it. Any kind of women anatomy, when that thing goes south and they start having trouble it's always estrogen. [00:14:00] Estrogen is the dominating hormone, gives them all sorts of trouble.
Okay, so what do we do? I always look to get them back to balance. I want to lower their estrogen. If it's menopausal, I want to elevate their progesterone levels, we can do that naturally. We look at cortisol, it's a huge, huge factor, we look at the thyroid. If there's thyroid symptoms, we address the thyroid because if you don't address all of it you're not gonna fix it. [00:14:30] This is generally what we do. We look and see what is the major things, what are the major symptoms. We treat those symptoms, we treat the symptoms because they've got to get relief and that's what they're ... They're not coming to see me for any other reason, right?
They come to the Martin Clinic, they want results so we just got to figure out, and sometimes we've got to tweak certain things but, generally, we've got a great protocol to fix the key issue and get that balance back in the hormonal [00:15:00] triangle that we're talking about.
Dr. Martin, Jr.: Yeah, so just to recap that. When you approach peri-menopausal or menopausal symptoms that have gone crazy because of an imbalance in the Bermuda Triangle of hormones, which is basically what you walk about quite a bit. You will address the issues in the Bermuda Triangle of hormones. You'll address the adrenal issues, you'll address the estrogen/progesterone issues, and the thyroid issues.
Dr. Martin, Sr.: Yeah.
Dr. Martin, Jr.: What's interesting is that if they're having ... [00:15:30] Unfortunately, we always talk about this often about how the thyroid, it's kind of like that wack-a-mole game. Remember you go to a carnival and there's that little mole that pops up, you got that sponge hammer and then you're hitting it, right?
Dr. Martin, Sr.: Yeah.
Dr. Martin, Jr.: You never know if you're hitting it or whatever, it just seems to pop up all over the place and these artificial points show up on the board all the time that you're hitting this thing. That's the thyroid. The thyroid is the mole and everything hits it. If you have a cortisol problem your thyroid's gonna get messed up. You have an estrogen problem [00:16:00] your thyroid's gonna get messed up, which is why a lot of times a lot of women think they have a thyroid problems because they do have a thyroid problem but it may not show up on a blood test.
Then we talked about this as well off air and we wrote a newsletter about it a couple weeks ago. This is interesting because it's a visual thing for people. Everybody always think that the hormones, you just make all these hormones, thyroid hormones for example. You make buckets of it and buckets of it all year. [00:16:30] The reality is, the thyroid is so powerful, it is so powerful that if you were to add up the amount of thyroid hormone secreted in a full year, so 365 days, a full year of thyroid hormone in a healthy woman, this is a healthy thyroid, it's about a teaspoon worth of thyroid hormone. It's not much.
The body does not need a lot of hormones, it needs the right amount of hormones, and any [00:17:00] deviation from that ... That's what makes the thyroid so frustrating because, if you think about it, it's only ...
Dr. Martin, Sr.: How do you measure that?
Dr. Martin, Jr.: It's a teaspoon.
Dr. Martin, Sr.: How do you measure that?
Dr. Martin, Jr.: If somebody makes a drop less than a teaspoon they may be so sensitive, and that's the thing. Their levels, they may be more sensitive to it or more resistant to it but even the slightest change of that messes them up so bad they go get tested and the testing is not good enough. It really isn't, at this point.
Dr. Martin, Sr.: You know how many women tell us, "I knew it was my [00:17:30] thyroid." They come in, I go, "Your thyroid's not working properly," and they go, "I knew it." It's amazing, I say, "I already saw five women this morning."
Dr. Martin, Jr.: If you have the symptoms of thyroid, if you have thyroid symptoms your thyroid's not functioning properly. That's the reality of it. You can go get it tested and get these numbers and all these kind of things but the reality is, your body is giving you symptoms of a thyroid because your thyroid's not working. It's not optimal. We always use this term optimal, right?
Dr. Martin, Sr.: Yeah, yeah, [00:18:00] we know that.
Dr. Martin, Jr.: Your numbers could be okay but it's not optimal for you specifically, and so these labs, they use these ranges. Well, those ranges, some of the ranges are ridiculous. For example, testosterone in men. It's like ...
Dr. Martin, Sr.: Wow, isn't it 20 to 1,000?
Dr. Martin, Jr.: Yeah, that's ridiculous. That's ridiculous.
Dr. Martin, Sr.: What if you're at 400? Is that good, bad or ugly?
Dr. Martin, Jr.: Yeah. If a person needs to be at 800 and now they're at 400 the test would say they're normal.
Dr. Martin, Sr.: Oh yeah.
Dr. Martin, Jr.: If it drops 400 points [00:18:30] for that guy he may not feel good at all. Thyroid's the same way. Your thyroid is so finely tuned and it's so powerful you don't need a lot of it so the slightest microscopic decrease in the amount of thyroid hormone you produce will have drastic effects on how you feel. That's why the question, we always say this. This ultimate question is, how do you feel? When it comes to menopause, menopause is really telling you ... If you're having a hard time with menopause, you're an unbalance in that Bermuda triangle [00:19:00] of hormones. You've got to fix those things and then it's amazing what will happen.
All these other symptoms you've never even associated with it, it's amazing what happens.
Dr. Martin, Sr.: Well, think about anxiety/depression, it's so common it's unreal. Come on, people that have never been depressed, now they're not sleeping and they got ... Oh man, oh man. I mean, the cascade of possible ramification symptoms from being [00:19:30] imbalanced. Women become extremely frustrated because generally, and just generally, I don't ... Physicians are not listening. They're not listening. They're testing but they're not listening, and we got to listen because, hey, you got clues and your body's screaming at you, I'm imbalanced, but you've got to listen to that because you've got inside information.
Dr. Martin, Jr.: A lot of times, you know that old TV show, House [00:20:00] MD, where every week was the weirdest, oddest, strangest, never seen medical condition. He's like a medical Sherlock Holmes. The reality is, the body is not that difficult. Most of the time, the body will tell you what's wrong if they're listening, and that's the problem. A lot of times, the body will pretty much say my thyroid's not working and just are people listening to it, right? Is the doctor listening to it?
Dr. Martin, Sr.: The thing is too, and [00:20:30] this has sort of been the motto at the Martin Clinic for years. What trumps lab tests? Your symptoms, right? It trumps it because they're more important. You know your body ... I always tell my patients, "You know your body better than I know it so you tell me, tell me how you're feeling." This is why I'm all into questions because I want to know if they've got inside information. Then people come in and they go, "I got to fill out a questionnaire, you [00:21:00] asked me the same question 10 times." I meant it though. I mean it because I want to know. You're gonna give me some, and then I know exactly. With all the years of experience, both you and I know that. We go in and target because we ask specific questions because those are huge clues.
Same thing with menopause. You're getting symptoms and I go, "Naw, you're not balanced." They go, "My blood work was good. I got this tested and ..."
Dr. Martin, Jr.: Yeah, but they got bad hot flashes, they're not sleeping, they're feeling [00:21:30] anxiety or depressed and ... No, it's an interesting discussion and, again, we do get that question asked a lot of times, but a lot of times they're asking about menopausal questions but that's not necessarily ... That triggered, in a sense, that decreased production triggered a cascade of chemical reactions that now are leading to this but the problem is really in that Bermuda triangle of hormones that you talk about so often.
We talk about that in our metabolic storm program which is now available [00:22:00] for free on our website. That program there is fantastic, it's helped so many women understand their hormones and then also what to do with them. You can get that on our website. If you go to martinclinic.com it's right on our main page.
Dr. Martin, Sr.: I've told physicians to go there.
Dr. Martin, Jr.: Yeah, it's great.
Dr. Martin, Sr.: I said, "You need a refresher course on hormones."
Dr. Martin, Jr.: It's practical, in a sense, because we talk a lot about symptoms and it's a great program. Like I said, it's a free thing, it's a lot of information but it's a fantastic program they can go through. You [00:22:30] can google our website, our home page, martinclinic.com and access that program. Again, we want to thank you for listening and have a great day.
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In this episode we talk about 4 vitamins and minerals that when deficient, can cause insomnia. We begin the episode talking about the most common cause of insomnia in women over the age of 40...elevated cortisol.
We then talk about Vitamin D, Vitamin B12, Magnesium, and iron.
We talk about the reasons why you end up with a problem with any of them and the connection to sleep.
If you're not sleeping well...one of these deficiencies is most likely to blame.
Dr. Martin Jr.: You're listening to The Doctor Is In podcast from martinclinic.com. Although we share a lot of practical and, in our opinion, awesome information, what you hear on this podcast is not intended to diagnose, cure, treat, or prevent any disease. It's strictly for informational purposes. So enjoy.
Hello, I'm Dr. Martin Jr., ...
Dr. Martin Sr.: ... I'm Dr. Martin Sr., ...
Dr. Martin Jr.: ... and this is The Doctor Is In podcast, and this is episode 164. [00:00:30] Today we wanna talk a little bit more about sleep. We've done some previous podcasts on sleep, but we wanna talk about the five major causes of insomnia or sleep issues. Four of them are nutritional deficiencies, and one is a hormone which, if you've listened to our previous podcasts, you're gonna know the answer to that, which we'll get into in one second.
Now, what's interesting is that you and I, off air, have been talking about a systematic review study that looked at melatonin. [00:01:00] Melatonin is that hormone that you secrete at nighttime. It's amazing, you need to sleep to get melatonin, but if you're not getting melatonin you're not sleeping. It's kinda like a-
Dr. Martin Sr.: And your body makes it.
Dr. Martin Jr.: Your body makes it naturally.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Because people think, “I gotta take melatonin as a supplement,” but your body makes melatonin. Just understand that it's not a herb or whatever.
Dr. Martin Jr.: Your body makes it, and it's interesting, studies have shown that in a dark room you make more of it, when [00:01:30] you're sleeping better, cool, and all of that stuff, which we can get into some of the sleep tips later.
But what they found is that when you're sleeping well and you're releasing melatonin, it actually improves your fasting glucose and insulin sensitivity. On our last episode we talked a ton about the effect of having high fasting glucose and the opposite of insulin sensitivity, which is insulin resistance.
Real quickly, before we go on, let's quickly explain why you want to be [00:02:00] insulin sensitive. Because insulin, like we said in the last episode, but really quickly we'll summarize, blood sugar levels are so toxic that, whenever you eat food and it's broken down into glucose, and your blood sugar levels spike up a little bit, you have to do something about it. Your body secretes insulin, and then insulin basically comes along and say, “All right, get out of here,” it tells the glucose to go into storage. Which, if you wanna learn a lot more about that, go back and listen to our previous episode because we talk about that in a lot more detail.
[00:02:30] But insulin resistance happens when you're constantly having to lower your blood sugar levels because it's always spiking, and eventually your cells just stop listening to insulin, so your cells become resistant, which is where the term insulin resistant comes from. When you are insulin resistant, you need to secrete a lot more insulin to get the same job done.
However, on the flip side, when you are insulin sensitive, [00:03:00] when your cells are really sensitive, it's like a person that's really sensitive, you don't have to say or do much around them, they react. And that's what happens. The cells that are insulin sensitive, they only need a little bit of insulin, and then they do the same job as normally. That's a good thing, whenever you need less insulin to do a job, that's always good for your biochemistry, it's good for your physiology, it's good for your brain, it's good for your heart, it's good for your muscles, it's good for your fat cells.
Dr. Martin Sr.: It's the hormone that wants you dead, right? [00:03:30] Insulin wants you dead, overuse of insulin wants you dead. And it really, really, really, really wants you dead.
Dr. Martin Jr.: It's funny, because insulin is so crucial to life. Insulin is one of those things that ... I always look at insulin as a comic book or movie character that starts off with the intentions of really helping everybody out, and then by the end they're just a plain old villain who just craves more power. That's how insulin works, it's supposed to help us out, and without it you die, without insulin you die, [00:04:00] your blood sugar levels would never come down and you would die, it's just game over, you need insulin to control your blood sugar levels, and other things, insulin does other things as well ...
But it's the most powerful food partitioning hormone in the body. It controls where things go in your body after you eat. It tells you ... Are you going to storage? Without insulin, you're gonna burn it off, it's all these things that happen.
But, at the end of the day, when you sleep ... Listen, sleep is anti-aging, you age better, sleep ... They've [00:04:30] shown one of the stages of sleep, which is REM, you're doing a brain dump in a sense. It's like when your computer gets so backed up with all this data, and you clear the cookies, and you clear the cache, and then all of a sudden the computer's running better. That's what sleep does to your brain, it dumps a lot of that junk in your brain, your filtration system that you and I talked about, the plumbing of your brain, works better at night, so you sleep better-
Dr. Martin Sr.: Isn't that neat, about that glymphatic drainage?
Dr. Martin Jr.: The glymphatic system.
Dr. Martin Sr.: The glymphatic system that we talked about a few episodes [00:05:00] ago.
Dr. Martin Jr.: Yeah, that was a brand new system that they discovered. They always knew that the brain ... Like anything else, when you make energy, it creates a lot of waste. In order to make energy, we create waste, and we have our lymphatic system, our respiratory system, our sweating, all of that stuff gets rid of the waste in our body.
The brain, it consumes 25% of the energy in our body, which is incredible to think about. So there's a lot of waste, and they never quite knew how the plumbing worked. But now they discovered this glymphatic [00:05:30] system, the plumbing of the brain, and they've found it works better at nighttime.
So sleep is crucial to brain health. If somebody has a lifetime of not getting enough sleep, or a lifetime of insomnia, they are so much more likely to end up with dementia or Alzheimer's. So it's good for your brain, sleep's good for your brain, sleep is good for your insulin sensitivity, it's good for your heart, it's good for your hormones that control hunger, it's good for fat loss ... Sleep is everything. Sleep [00:06:00] and eating and exercise, if you nail those three things there, you're healthy. You're absolutely healthy.
So here's the thing: a lot of people are not sleeping well. A lot of people have insomnia, a lot of people just no longer wake up feeling refreshed in the morning. It's amazing how common sleep issues have become.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Big time.
Dr. Martin Jr.: And it's amazing, for women, as they age, [00:06:30] sleep ... Any hormonal issue affects their sleep. Cortisol affects their sleep, they just don't sleep well. That's what's happening now. So what we wanna do for the remainder of this episode is just talk about the most common causes of insomnia, and they're all fixable. So let's talk about the four ... There's more than this, but let's talk about four big nutritional deficiencies that can directly affect a person's sleep.
Let's talk about the first one, because it's something that we talk about a lot, and [00:07:00] that of course is Vitamin D.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Linus Pauling, he was a great guy, I remembered studying a lot of stuff that he came out with when his research won the Nobel prize on Vitamin C, and I've always said, “He just missed by one letter in the alphabet.” Because now we're finding the most essential of all vitamins is the sunshine vitamin, Vitamin D. Much more ...
Look, you need Vitamin C, your body doesn't produce it, and you need to get [00:07:30] it in your diet. But the key for all causes, really, is if you're not sure, then take Vitamin D, because Vitamin D is essential. And it's essential for the production of melatonin, it's very simple. That's why you get out in the sun, and think about it, you're in the sun all day, you usually sleep that night. Because it'll drain the life ... But it's because of all the melatonin it's producing. You actually get a good night's sleep when you've been out. [00:08:00] That's why I go to Florida.
Dr. Martin Jr.: There was a study done in men that I found interesting, and they found that men who have a Vitamin D deficiency, not getting enough, which is so common, a lot of times it was linked to getting under five hours of sleep every night. It just directly affected their sleep. So we could do a whole show on melatonin and the effect that it has on ... So many anti-cancer effects, it's such a powerful ... When you produce it, I'm not talking about taking melatonin, I'm saying when you naturally produce melatonin and when you sleep well, [00:08:30] it's incredible how much better your body functions.
Again, as you mentioned, you need Vitamin D to get melatonin in the first place. So a deficiency in Vitamin D, for a lot of people, can cause a sleeping issue, can cause right out insomnia or it can just affect the quality of sleep that they get. So that's the first one, is Vitamin D.
Let's talk about another real common one as well, which is magnesium.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Think of the word “relax”, I always say magnesium, if you wonder when you need it, it's to [00:09:00] relax. Again, magnesium, it participates in over 600 functions in your body, so magnesium is the essential mineral. And we don't have much of it, it's not in food like it used to be, because of soil erosion and pesticides and herbicides-
Dr. Martin Jr.: And even if they consume it, they're not absorbing it the same way because of all the digestive issues that people have.
Dr. Martin Sr.: And magnesium is essential. So again, it's one deficiency that we see big, big, big time in people [00:09:30] today. If you're stressed, guess what mineral goes out to your body.
Dr. Martin Jr.: It's interesting, because Vitamin D is directly tied to a neurotransmitter, which is GABA, which is so important as well to help with sleep. There's a direct connection to your ability to sleep, but then there's also a lot of side pathways that definitely affect your sleep, which is why-
Dr. Martin Sr.: And if you're eating a lot of sugar, guess what happens. Your magnesium, it's one of the minerals that you are really secreting a lot out. It [00:10:00] comes right out of your body on a high carbohydrate crappy diet.
Dr. Martin Jr.: So let's talk about the third one then, we talked about Vitamin D, we talked about magnesium. Another big one that you talk a lot about is Vitamin B12.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah, Vitamin B12 should be at optimal levels. We're learning so much more now, and it's so common today that B12, like you said, anybody with digestive issues is gonna be low in B12. Almost every medication that you can think of, from [00:10:30] high blood pressure to diabetic medication like Metformin and whatever, these are common meds today, and guess what-
Dr. Martin Jr.: Antacids ...
Dr. Martin Sr.: Antacids, you are going to be low in B12. Again, if you're taking B12, “Oh, Doc, I take it, I take a multivitamin,” you're not getting B12 in it, you need to take the methyl B12. To be absorbed, it has to be [crosstalk 00:10:48]-
Dr. Martin Jr.: Methylcobalamin, and it has to be sublingual. You can't swallow it at all in terms of in a [00:11:00] capsule, because if it's mixed in with the other B complexes, you may be getting the other B's, but you're definitely not getting the B12-
Dr. Martin Sr.: And when you get a blood test done, and it's in that normal range, no. Because it needs to be in an optimal range.
Dr. Martin Jr.: Again, we've talked about this on previous podcasts, but does it matter ... We get this question a lot when it comes to thyroid, we get this question a lot when it comes to testosterone, but for example, if a guy has every symptom of low testosterone, they're tired at nighttime, they've got all these symptoms of low [00:11:30] testosterone, and then they get it checked and their doctor's like, “It's normal.” And then they're like, “It says it's normal.” Yeah, but it's not optimized for you. Your body needs more testosterone than what it has, so for you that's low.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Same thing with B12.
Dr. Martin Jr.: And then when they get it higher, they feel better, and then their doctor says, “Oh, it's too high, we gotta bring it down,” and then they bring it down and then they don't feel good anymore. B12 is kinda the same way. I firmly believe that there's an optimum level, and each of us is a little different, that we function better at. And a lot of it has to do with our history.
[00:12:00] They're finding this out more and more now, even with the bariatric surgeries that people are getting. It is absolutely destroying their ability to get B12 normally, so they have to sublingual it. But it's such a problem nowadays, B12, that so many people are low in it. But again, the numbers don't matter to us as much as just how do you feel when it comes to that. There's a direct effect that low B12 has on people's ability to sleep.
Which moves onto the next one that's kinda related to this, which of course is iron. [00:12:30] Iron is one of those things that women especially are ... Here's the thing. I'm gonna read off some symptoms: low energy, heart palpitations, lightheaded, burning legs when climbing stairs, stressed, irritable, depressed, brain fog. A lot of those symptoms sound like thyroid, so a lot of women have thyroid symptoms, and it's masquerading for some of them as they've got anemia, they've got low iron. And vice versa in a [00:13:00] lot or ways. But iron presents itself, they're fatigued-
Dr. Martin Sr.: Pale.
Dr. Martin Jr.: They look pale, there's a lot of symptoms. But the problem with iron is most people just don't get enough because we're scared to eat meat, we're scared to eat red meat nowadays, and there's a difference between the iron found in meat-
Dr. Martin Sr.: In the plant kingdom, right?
Dr. Martin Jr.: Versus plants. If you're a vegetarian, or you're a vegan, you definitely are struggling to get enough iron.
Dr. Martin Sr.: And we don't call it “hem” iron, we call it [00:13:30] what?
Dr. Martin Jr.: Heme iron.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Heme. You corrected me today.
Dr. Martin Jr.: Yeah, because you were talking about “hemming”, and I was-
Dr. Martin Sr.: Well, your Google corrected me.
Dr. Martin Jr.: I was like, “I'm pretty sure it's not that,” because every time you mentioned that I kept on looking at my jeans thinking I gotta shorten them because you were calling them hem.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Hem.
Dr. Martin Jr.: But it's heme.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Like the Hemi engine.
Dr. Martin Jr.: Dr. Google says it's ... It is funny, but-
Dr. Martin Sr.: Heme, heme iron.
Dr. Martin Jr.: And it's funny, because you have ... I remember Grandpa Martin, the same thing, you have your way of saying certain [00:14:00] words. I like how you say “diabetes”. Now you're conscious to say it, but you don't say diabetes like everybody else does.
Dr. Martin Sr.: What do I say?
Dr. Martin Jr.: Next time you say-
Dr. Martin Sr.: Diabetes.
Dr. Martin Jr.: Yeah. Yours rhymes with “bus”. It's just different. And it's funny, I never noticed it until somebody else pointed it out to me one time, they way you say it sounds so-
Dr. Martin Sr.: My dad was like that.
Dr. Martin Jr.: Yes, that's what I mean, I remember Grandpa being like that. But the way you say diabetes sounds so much more pleasant than-
Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah, but it's better.
Dr. Martin Jr.: It is better, I agree with that.
Dr. Martin Sr.: It's better, let's change it. [00:14:30] Don't listen to Google.
Dr. Martin Jr.: I would be happy if people called it ... I can't even say it how you say it.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Diabetes.
Dr. Martin Jr.: Yeah, I like it better. I can't say it, but I like that better.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Beat it with a diet, diabetes.
Dr. Martin Jr.: And then you did a video awhile ago, it was on Facebook, a lot of people saw this video because you were talking about milk. And the way you say “milk” in the video, it cracks me up even when I watch it now because I never noticed it till somebody in the comments pointed it out.
Dr. Martin Sr.: What did I say?
Dr. Martin Jr.: I can't remember, it wasn't milk. Say milk.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Milk?
Dr. Martin Jr.: In the video it wasn't that. So people pointed [00:15:00] it out, it's amazing, even the way I say words ... I talk fast. Because we get our podcasts transcribed, because some people prefer to read it, and I'm sure the transcription service is like, “Man, can you tell that guy to slow down? Can you tell that guy to slow down?”
But yes, you and I, it's funny because every time you say certain words it reminds me of Grandpa, and how he was the same thing. I remember when I was learning some stuff from him, I was like ... And I [00:15:30] like the way he says it better.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Well, he was French too, right? A lot more French.
Dr. Martin Jr.: Yeah, he put his own spin on the word. I just like that better. Anybody can say diabetes, only you can say ... I can't even say it. I won't even try to say it. But yeah.
So, at the end of the day, the type of iron ... That was long sidebar, by the way ... The type of iron that you get-
Dr. Martin Sr.: Heme.
Dr. Martin Jr.: ... heme iron that you get from red meats is absorbed better than you would get the non-heme [00:16:00] iron from the plant kingdom.
Dr. Martin Sr.: And I always say Popeye, you might know-
Dr. Martin Jr.: Yeah, I do know, Popeye's still [crosstalk 00:16:08] I used to watch that.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Popeye the sailor was very strong, and he said because he ate spinach. But he wasn't getting heme iron, when he was, he was getting it from the red meat he was eating, not spinach.
Dr. Martin Jr.: What a weird cartoon, by the way. I do remember watching it as a kid, I used to love it, aside from the disproportionate size of his forearms, which were awesome. [00:16:30] What a weird thing that somebody just came up with an idea, this guy just gets super strong when he opens a can of spinach. But yeah, it was a great cartoon.
Okay, so we talked about the four deficiencies, Vitamin D, Vitamin B12, magnesium, and iron, and then we hinted at the other one, which is a hormone, which is cortisol. Cortisol, we've said this before, is the number one cause of insomnia in women over the age of 40. If a woman over the age of 40 is having a hard time sleeping, [00:17:00] generally they have some kind of cortisol issue, too much cortisol.
And of course it's because cortisol is a cyclical hormone, meaning it naturally at some points in the day is higher, and at other points of the day is lower. Our cortisol levels are supposed to be the highest as we wake up in the morning, and it's supposed to get lower as the day goes on because we don't need the energy, we don't need that fight or flight as we prepare to sleep.
So at the end of the day cortisol's supposed to be lower, but so many people [00:17:30] struggle with elevated cortisol, so it's high, and their body just can't shut down to go to sleep, they can't fall asleep, they can't stay asleep, and it creates a real insomnia issue. And we've talked about that cortisol problem specifically on previous podcasts, and we've written about it a lot in our emails. But that's another major reason.
So if you're listening to this episode and you're having a hard time sleeping, and you haven't tried lowering your cortisol and you haven't tried optimizing your D or B12, your magnesium and your iron, then I would [00:18:00] definitely start there. Those are nutritional deficiencies.
Now let's talk about a couple of real quick tips, based on research, for sleeping. We know, for sure, that a black, dark room-
Dr. Martin Sr.: Dark, dark, dark.
Dr. Martin Jr.: ... is best for melatonin secretion, even to the point-
Dr. Martin Sr.: Cover your eyes, then.
Dr. Martin Jr.: Yeah, and if you can't cover your eyes, then even if you take a little electrical tape and you cover those little blue indicator lights on everything in your room. When something's charging, that thing's off. Alarm clocks, same thing, it's amazing ... I [00:18:30] remember reading this, and I have to verify this, they found that when a light was shining on them at nighttime, it definitely affected their melatonin, even a little bit of an alarm clock light. So we know that. You want dark, pitch, pitch black.
We also know that a cool room-
Dr. Martin Sr.: Cool, yeah.
Dr. Martin Jr.: People sleep better in a cool room. And I know that temperature is the constant struggle between men and women for eternity, eternity, I'm 45, been married going on 25 years, and our temperature differences [00:19:00] at nighttime still shock me to this day, how our temperatures can be so different in the same house all day, come to bed at nighttime, and she's freezing, and I'm warm. It's just amazing to me, the temperature differences that we can have.
But we know for sure, research is saying cooler room. You can have a lot of blankets on you, but the room better be cool, you better not be sweating all night, you better not be too-
Dr. Martin Sr.: I wanna see ... In the winter, I like to see the frost [00:19:30] on my eyebrows in the morning.
Dr. Martin Jr.: It is funny, people tend to sleep better in a cooler room. So that's another thing.
Another thing that is so much more relevant today than in the past is blue light from your iPad, from your phone-
Dr. Martin Sr.: Turn that stuff off.
Dr. Martin Jr.: Yeah, for somebody that has insomnia, I think research is pretty clear that, if you have a hard time sleeping or staying asleep at nighttime, you may wanna turn off your screens by about 8:30, 9:00 if you go to bed at about 10:30 or 10:00. You want that-
Dr. Martin Sr.: [00:20:00] Blue lights off.
Dr. Martin Jr.: Off at nighttime, there's no question.
Dr. Martin Sr.: It's hard to do, because we're so addicted to looking at social media. I'm looking at studies, and reading stuff-
Dr. Martin Jr.: Exactly. Now it's so much more convenient to get all that stuff on your phone, on your iPad, that's what we do, before bed you read it. But again, if you have an issue with insomnia, that's definitely something that can affect. And then there's even something to be said about sleeping in a cool room, but then having, before that, a [00:20:30] warm bath before bed can help people with insomnia.
Dr. Martin Sr.: With some salts, because then you get magnesium salts.
Dr. Martin Jr.: That's right. So those are some practical tips outside of the nutritional deficiencies to fix to help you sleep. Also, for some people they may exercise too late in the day, and that can cause a delayed phase reaction, it can delay the phase of sleeping at nighttime. So there's different things in there as well, eating at nighttime can do that as well for some people. There's a lot of reasons why we can't sleep, but like we [00:21:00] said before, the number one cause of insomnia in women over the age of 40, first and foremost, fix your cortisol, and then go down the line of those nutritional deficiencies.
Again, we wanna thank you for listening to this episode, and have a great day.
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In this episode we talk about a recent study showing only 12% of the population has normal values for the following metabolic markers:
This means that 88% of the population has abnormal markers and have (or at serious risk) of having metabolic syndrome.
This study is an indictment on the current dietary advice and it's time for major changes.
We talk about the importance of each of the metabolic markers mentioned above and what they can put you at risk for.
We also talk about how to REVERSE metabolic syndrome.
Dr. Martin Jr.: You're listening to The Doctor's In Podcast from MartinClinic.com. Although we share a lot of practical, and in our opinion, awesome information, what you hear on this podcast is not intended to diagnose, cure, treat, or prevent any disease. It's strictly for informational purposes, so enjoy.Hi, I'm Dr. Martin Jr.
Dr. Martin Sr.: I'm Dr. Martin Sr.
Dr. Martin Jr.: And this is The Doctor's In Podcast, and this [00:00:30] is episode 163. Today, we wanna talk about a couple of studies that have come out over the last few weeks, really, that have caught our attention, and it's really something that is not surprising in any way, it's very reflective of what you would see everywhere you go. But the scary thing is, you have a great analogy that you use all the time talking about, we call it the carb roulette, or the Russian roulette, right? A lot of movies-
Dr. Martin Sr.: You're playing with a loaded gun, right?
Dr. Martin Jr.: Yeah, a lot of movies you [00:01:00] always see that one scene at some point where there's like a Russian roulette. They put one bullet in the gun, and they spin the chamber, and-
Dr. Martin Sr.: Guy puts it to his head and-
Dr. Martin Jr.: Yeah. He's trying to get information from somebody, so he's squeezing the trigger, and every time the trigger squeezes and there's no bullet, the guy gets really nervous, and eventually, he starts talking, right? That's a pretty cliché way in a movie to get information from somebody, just play Russian roulette with them. Anyways, you have this analogy that you use, and I find it fascinating that [00:01:30] if somebody has a lifetime habit of a high carbohydrate diet, they're playing Russian roulette.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Yep. Absolutely.
Dr. Martin Jr.: Except for this time, rather than it being an empty chamber with just one bullet in it, there's pretty much every chamber is full. One bullet is cancer, another bullet is heart disease, another bullet is Alzheimer's and dementia, another bullet is diabetes.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Diabetes, absolutely.
Dr. Martin Jr.: And, you know-
Dr. Martin Sr.: Another bullet is premature aging.
Dr. Martin Jr.: [00:02:00] Yeah.
Dr. Martin Sr.: You know, I mean, the list goes on, autoimmune.
Dr. Martin Jr.: Autoimmune disorders. It's interesting that the only thing that you're gonna know for sure is that you're gonna get one of those things. You just don't know which one it is. That's the interesting thing when it comes to having ... We'll talk more about this in detail, but having a problem in that area high circulating insulin, is that you will end up with something. It just depends on what you end up with. [00:02:30] Some people can end up with any of those things, but the underlying cause for so many people is the same things. Let's talk about the studies, and then let's explain why these studies matter. The one that kind of caught our attention, that got you and I talking about this off air was a study showing that 12 percent of the population has normal values.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Only 12.
Dr. Martin Jr.: Only 12 percent. I'm not good in math, but that's not good.
Dr. Martin Sr.: That's a 88 percent [00:03:00] failure rate in some very, very important markers. I mean, the study was fascinating because it talked about the metabolic markers. There was a book written years ago that was called Metabolic Syndrome, or Metabolic-
Dr. Martin Jr.: I think it was called ... Was is Syndrome X?
Dr. Martin Sr.: Syndrome X.
Dr. Martin Jr.: Syndrome X, I remember that book.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Yes, yes. Syndrome X. Remember? I think it was the first time that these researchers had coined this phrase Syndrome X, which is really metabolic syndrome.
Dr. Martin Jr.: [00:03:30] The thing is this, metabolic syndrome would be ... it would be better off if it was renamed. We've talked about this so many times in the years past in newsletters. Metabolic syndrome, it was a name that was given because of the way that it affects the whole body, right? Your whole metabolic system, your endocrine system, everything. A better name ... because they know the cause of it. It's not like they don't know the cause anymore so when you call it Metabolic Syndrome, you're not doing it a favor because you're not talking about [00:04:00] what the cause of it is, which instead of Metabolic Syndrome, it really should be called High Circulating Insulin Syndrome, right?
Dr. Martin Sr.: Because that's what causes it.
Dr. Martin Jr.: That's exactly what it is. The bottom line is that they have an insulin resistance or they have too much circulating insulin and they get a syndrome. Of course, a syndrome is a ... They call it a syndrome rather than a disease because it can be characterized by a lot of different symptoms all over the place. Let's talk about that. 12 percent of the population has normal values of [00:04:30] all these together; weight circumference, fasting blood sugar, blood pressure, triglycerides, and HDL. Let's go through those quickly. Only 12 percent of the population can say-
Dr. Martin Sr.: They passed the test.
Dr. Martin Jr.: All those together. Some may say, "Well, my weight circumference is good. My fasting blood sugar levels are good. My triglycerides are a little whatever. My blood pressure's not bad, but my HDL, which is not where it should be." So, 12 percent of the population can say ... [00:05:00] and those are really crucial markers of high circulating insulin. I mean, there's a lot of correlation with obviously your waist circumference, right? There's a ton of correlation between that and metabolic health.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Well, you always called the waist circumference a sugar belly, right?
Dr. Martin Jr.: Yeah.
Dr. Martin Sr.: You know, it really is-
Dr. Martin Jr.: It's a carb belly, it's a liver-
Dr. Martin Sr.: Fatty liver.
Dr. Martin Jr.: It also indicates, for some people, that their hormones are off, are messed up so they're [00:05:30] storing fat in places that they never used to store fat before. But, the reality is, that indicates a metabolic issue. There's no question when their waist circumference goes up. That's a very important marker. It indicates for a lot of people high circulating insulin, or it indicates a problem with cortisol, or a problem with estrogen, or low testosterone for men. It is interesting. You can't just look at an increased weight circumference and just [00:06:00] nail it on one thing because in order to do that, a lot of things under the scene has to happen.
That's the problem is I find a lot of times we look at things too simply. For somebody to start putting fat there and start to increase their waist circumference, there's a lot of metabolic damage. There's a lot of inflammation going on behind the scenes that caused that. It's not a simple ... which is why weight loss is so difficult because there's a lot going on under the hood. A lot of enzymes [00:06:30] and inflammation like we mentioned, right? That's the first one. Fasting blood sugar is another, such an important marker. A lot of times, by the time you're fasting, blood sugar levels are-
Dr. Martin Sr.: Elevated.
Dr. Martin Jr.: Elevated. You've already had a metabolic issue for a long, long time.
Dr. Martin Sr.: For sure.
Dr. Martin Jr.: This is because ... We've talked about this before, but it bears repeating. Blood glucose is toxic to you. Your body tightly, tightly regulates your [00:07:00] blood glucose levels. You and I have talked about this before that if you were drain the body of all the blood, all the litres of blood that we have, and you were filter out the glucose that's in there at any given time, you need about a half to a quarter of teaspoon of glucose. Your body doesn't need much to function. It's deadly. If your blood sugar levels go up too high, that's deadly. If it goes down too low, that could be deadly.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.
Dr. Martin Jr.: Your blood sugar levels are tightly regulated. In order to keep [00:07:30] your blood sugar levels even or normal, your body will do a lot of things around it behind the scenes. Everything you eat gets basically converted into glucose so it goes into your blood eventually. If you don't burn it off for energy right away, you have to do something with it. You can't leave it in your blood. That's where other hormones come in; insulin gets secreted, insulin takes that glucose out of your blood. They call insulin a partitioning hormone. Basically, insulin tells glucose, "Alright, get out of here and you're [00:08:00] going into storage. You're not being burnt off for energy," so it's like, "Alright, let's go into storage."
You have three places where you can store that; your muscles, limited amount, but you have glycogen. Insulin tells your glucose, "Alright, go into storage. Go into your muscles." A couple of chemical processes later, converted the glycogen and store it in your muscle. Then, alright, muscle has a limited amount. Then, it's like, alright, liver is another place it sends it. But, liver is even smaller. It's like a little carry on suitcase [00:08:30] that you bring onto an airplane.
Dr. Martin Sr.: I have just come back from flying. It just amazes me what people what they try and get in that airplane on the little compartment over your seat. They don't want to pay the baggage fees so they bring these things in, these big wheels on. I get such a kick out of that.
Dr. Martin Jr.: We were away this weekend and we flew back this weekend and same thing. I like the look on their face when they know, they know that they're pushing their luck. They're like, "Oh, I've flown like this [00:09:00] before." I'm like looking at their bag, I'm like, "No, that's a full size luggage. There's no way that you've-
Dr. Martin Sr.: You're getting that in that little-
Dr. Martin Jr.: In fact, I was going through security in the customs and a guy tried to get a suitcase through the thing. It wouldn't even fit through the scanning machine because he didn't want to check it in so they actually made him leave the line, and it was a long line, and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, you're right. It is funny. You know, airlines, they're like, "Oh yeah, we'll keep the prices down, but we'll just charge you for everything else behind the scenes." People, they [00:09:30] try to ... the carry on bags are getting a little bit bigger and a little bit bigger.
But, that's your liver. Your liver is a little, small, carry on that you're trying to pack two weeks worth of vacation into. That's where liver fat comes in. Liver fat is one of the first steps towards diabetes. It's one of the first steps towards real metabolic issues. Imagine, so you eat some food, it gets converted to glucose. Some things are broken down very quickly. We call them soon-to-be sugar carbs. They break down really fast. They spike [00:10:00] your blood sugar levels, which is dangerous so your body just says, "Nope, let's get that down."
Dr. Martin Sr.: Store, store, store, store.
Dr. Martin Jr.: Insulin comes along and it takes it and it says, "Alright, you're going into muscle." Muscle's full. "You're going into liver." Liver's full. "Let's maybe pack a little bit around the liver, but not really." Then, "Alright, you're full. We've got to get rid of it. Now, you go into fat cells." You can always make more fat cells.
Dr. Martin Sr.: When it gets loaded up, it will also release it as triglycerides into your blood stream.
Dr. Martin Jr.: [00:10:30] That's right. That's what we'll get into the next one. What's interesting though about what happens when you start to store things away, now, your body fat storage is really just a way to keep your blood sugar levels stable. You and I have said this before is that your body's ability to store fat saves you from being diabetic. Some people don't have the ability to store fat like other people so they get to become diabetic much quicker. They start to run into problems much sooner because they just can't store it like somebody else [00:11:00] can, right? Somebody else can store on or pack on a lot of-
Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah, because some people can be 300 pounds and haven't been officially diagnosed as a diabetic because their blood sugars are not-
Dr. Martin Jr.: Yeah, that's the only thing that's missing from that diagnosis.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah, I mean, they really are, but there's ... there's numbers and they fit within those numbers so they're told by their doctor, "Whatever, you might be pre, but you're not." But, they really are and they're just fooling themselves.
Dr. Martin Jr.: That's the thing, right?
Dr. Martin Sr.: They have a tremendous ability to store it. To store the glucose into fat, right?
Dr. Martin Jr.: That's [00:11:30] right. That's what ends up happening there. Now, over a period of time your body will do this, but what happens after a while, it's like anything else, right? You've played a lot of sports, I've played a lot of sports, and you always have that coach who likes to yell. He's always yelling. He's always mad. He's always yelling. At first, you listen. He yells and you snap into attention, you skate [00:12:00] back into the circle or whatever. He's got your attention. But, if he keeps on yelling over and over and over again, all of the sudden you're not as quick. You start to tune it out, right?
That's not the most effective communication method. It's just strictly yelling at somebody. People start to ignore the yeller. Well, that's what happens with insulin. Your cells have to respond to insulin. Eventually, if insulin is there all the time and it's always present and it's always yelling at them to do something, to do something, to do something, [00:12:30] eventually, your cells just say, "Enough," and they stop listening. Then, insulin ... When it comes to that, is a one trick pony. All it does is it yells louder so your body makes more insulin.
If you're not going to listen to this much, I'm going to make more. Then, the cells listen again. Then, eventually, they say, "No." Then, the body's like, "Alright, we'll make more insulin." That's how you become insulin resistant. Your cells just stop listening to insulin so your body makes more insulin. Your body makes more insulin. Your [00:13:00] body, it increases, it increases, it increases. Then, what happens after a while, you have insulin circulating all the time and that's where problems start because high circulating insulin causes all these things that we're talking about. It causes a ton of inflammation. For a lot of people that have a lot of conditions that started off as inflammation, that inflammation started off because they had high circulating insulin all the time.
Dr. Martin Sr.: It's the number one cause of it.
Dr. Martin Jr.: Absolutely. Now, that's what we talked about. What's interesting [00:13:30] about fasting blood sugar levels, you know, it's funny because in medicine they have a range and if you're in that range, you're fine. If you're right before ... like let's say you're high, but you're not quite diabetic yet, they're like, "Yeah, you're pre-diabetic or you have some other symptoms of diabetes, but you're not there." But, you know what's interesting is that they've looked at the effect of these high normal blood sugar levels has on brain. It's not good.
Dr. Martin Sr.: It's not good.
Dr. Martin Jr.: High, high incidents of dementia and Alzheimer's.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Even though it's normal.
Dr. Martin Jr.: Even though it's normal, [00:14:00] it's at the high end of normal. It's at the high end of normal, which is why still to this day, one of the biggest things that somebody can do for their health is just to cut down the sugars.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah.
Dr. Martin Jr.: Cut down the sugars and the soon-to-be sugar carbs and it's amazing what that does to stabilize blood sugar levels.
Dr. Martin Sr.: It's like when they told you back in the 60's, you know, when I was a kid, they finally found out that smoking was bad for you, right? My dad used to smoke four packs [00:14:30] of cigarettes a day. I remember he'd come home cold turkey. I think he'd read a study or somewhere or whatever it said, "Hey, this causes cancer." In the 50's, they didn't think smoking caused cancer.
Dr. Martin Jr.: No, they actually would ... I remember reading medical articles where if somebody has asthma, they recommended cigarettes. Which goes to show you again that science is never settled.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah. They just didn't know.
Dr. Martin Jr.: That's right.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Like the food industry, the tobacco industry is well documented that they hid any kind of study-
Dr. Martin Jr.: Fake [00:15:00] science.
Dr. Martin Sr.: They bought off anybody they had to. It was a big business. Once people stopped smoking, even cut it down, that's the only ever dent they made in heart disease and cancer. It never came because people changed their diet. People didn't ever change their diet. They were told not ... Yeah, they changed their diet to bad eating. They replaced with with carbohydrates and sugars.
Dr. Martin Jr.: Which is ... Yeah, and then all those fake vegetables oils and [00:15:30] on and on. That's the issue with fasting blood glucose. So far, 12 percent have normal weight circumference, normal fasting blood sugar, normal blood pressure.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Blood pressure's huge.
Dr. Martin Jr.: Blood pressure ... and it's the same thing, again, we can go through a lot of studies here. I've got a couple that I just want to, just on blood pressure, the importance of blood pressure. Much more likely to have a stroke if you have high blood pressure before the age of 40. You know, it makes sense because if you think about ... if there's any problem in [00:16:00] the endothelial cell wall, which is the inner layer of the blood vessel walls, inflammation in there, it's the walls that are the problem. It's not the build of cholesterol in them.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Cholesterol, yeah.
Dr. Martin Jr.: It's the problem inside the thing. You can imagine, if there's any weakness in any of those things, when you have high blood pressure, it just exposes that tremendously. Blood pressure and strokes ... There was a study done looking at the incidents of blood pressure under the age of 40 and stroke later in life. Of course, it's high. Another one, same [00:16:30] thing, high blood pressure in mid-life. Mid-life high blood pressure. What do they consider mid-life? Probably 30's, 40's, and 50's. Probably mid-life. Much, much high incidents of dementia later in life. Again, which goes to show you the strong connection between insulin and dementia.
One of the side effects of high insulin is high blood pressure for a lot of people. It's not that that's the cause for everybody. But again, stress indirectly will raise your insulin levels because cortisol breaks up your blood sugar levels and insulin has to get secreted. It's [00:17:00] all kind of ... It's definitely all interconnected, but blood pressure is another one that's big. We're hearing and seeing a lot more of people who have higher blood pressure. People are stressed. People aren't unplugged ever. They're not thinking. They're not breathing.
Dr. Martin Sr.: They're not exercising.
Dr. Martin Jr.: They're not exercising, yeah. They've got deficiencies in magnesium, they've got deficiencies in other things, Vitamin D. All of these kind of things and it's causing elevated blood pressure. That's another [00:17:30] one. Triglycerides, as you mentioned, is a big one. Triglycerides is an indicator, in our opinion, which wouldn't even get you a cup of coffee at Tim Horton's. You can't go there and say, "Dr. Martin, this is my opinion."
Dr. Martin Sr.: It's not good? There's no cash value?
Dr. Martin Jr.: There's no cash value. It's got less cash value than Canadian Tire money. It's got no cash value whatsoever. But, in our opinion-
Dr. Martin Sr.: And we're right.
Dr. Martin Jr.: We like to think we are. Triglycerides ... I think I'm [00:18:00] right all the time so that's true. Unfortunately, people around me don't think I'm around me don't think I'm right all the time. Triglycerides is just an indication of your carb tolerance at that point. Somebody that has high triglycerides, they are eating beyond their carb tolerance. They're eating too many sugars or they're eating too many processed carbohydrates, those crappy carbs, and it's causing a spill over effect into their triglycerides, as you've mentioned earlier.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah, and there's no medication for triglycerides. It's food, right?
Dr. Martin Jr.: Yes.
Dr. Martin Sr.: [00:18:30] It really is food.
Dr. Martin Jr.: Food and depleting glycogen. What you'll talk about, we'll talk about that at the end. Yeah, we'll go through that more at the end. That's triglycerides. Now, we talked blood pressure and now HDL. HDL here is another thing as well. What is the HDL? Well, HDL is that high density, it's that "good cholesterol" that's correlated with a few things; one, being activity level is one. That good cholesterol, again, [00:19:00] a lot of people don't have high HDL levels anymore. They really don't. You factor those things in and 12 percent of the population only has normal on all those things we just mentioned.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Yeah, 88 percent failure rate.
Dr. Martin Jr.: 88 percent failure rate. Now, if that was an institution or that was a board test and 88 percent of the people were failing this thing, that you would have to look at the training, you would have to look at the information that people consumed to take that test was wrong. [00:19:30] Flat out wrong. That is an indictment on the system that people are being fed about their health, that people are being lied to about their health. They're given garbage information so people are failing these tests massively because of that. Because they're being ... People don't know what healthy is anymore.
We live in a time where everything around us is so polarized on one end or the other. You've got it in politics, you've got one end, hate's [00:20:00] the other side. The other side's stupid. In the nutrition world, you've got ... I mean, it's so crazy that just by telling people to lower your carbohydrates is considered a fad, it's considered a craziness, right? You've got keto on one side, you've got carnivores even further on that side. Then, on the other end you've got vegans and vegetarians. All that's doing is causing massive confusion. All of them have some points to them in a sense that, eat real food, right?
[00:20:30] All of them can fail on any of those diets when they ... You know, you can eat keto, and eat fake foods, and have inflammation. Keto is not a magic bullet if you're not eating real food. You can eat vegan and eat fake foods all day, and have processed foods, eat fake oils all day, and have the same issues. There's so much misinformation out there. There's so much confusion and everybody's fighting on nutrition, and the government and the guidelines [00:21:00] are junk. They're just garbage. You know, that food pyramid was bought and paid for by every lobby group that makes food anywhere on this planet, bought and paid for.
Look at it. It's ridiculous. Then, what do we have now? 12 percent of the population is normal. 88 percent are failing this massively. That's an indictment on everything around us, but the problem is, it's causing some serious issues. In my opinion, again, it won't [00:21:30] get you a cup of coffee at Tim Horton's, it's driving Alzheimer's and dementia. It's driving it. It's creating inflammation in the brain, it's creating neuro inflammation, and you're seeing an epidemic of people that have absolute problems. Their body is outliving their brain. It's no use living to 85 if your brain lived to 72. It makes no sense. All of these things, you know, we read these studies-
Dr. Martin Sr.: Serious implications. I mean, we could talk, too, and you know, we don't want to get into politics, but [00:22:00] I mean, some common sense when you look at the country that we live in. We're fortunate in Canada, we have a very good emergency care. Thank God, nobody's left on the street here in Canada. You know what I mean? If you have a heart attack and you go to the hospital, thank God, we do. I'm very thankful about that, but all the tea in China will not pay [00:22:30] for the disaster, this is just a prediction, the disaster that we've created in the health care.
Dr. Martin Jr.: Right.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Because we don't have health care. We have disease care.
Dr. Martin Jr.: We don't have disease care, we have disease management.
Dr. Martin Sr.: You got it.
Dr. Martin Jr.: It's a disease management system that all they want to do is manage your condition. Can you imagine, with type two diabetes, people can reverse it ... we're not saying, this is not us saying this, just go online and read. People reverse their diabetes, [00:23:00] they get off their meds by eating a certain way, but that way is not talked about ever in any office. It's just not talked about. Why is that? Why is that acceptable? Why is that allowed? Yet-
Dr. Martin Sr.: You know how much a diabetic patient in a lifetime, of let's say 20 years or 10 years of a diabetic, you're a diabetic and now you're a tax on the medical system.
Dr. Martin Jr.: I thought I read it was a quarter million dollars, is that correct?
Dr. Martin Sr.: [00:23:30] Yeah, it's a quarter million to a half a million dollars. Per person.
Dr. Martin Jr.: Per person that gets diagnosed. That's a big-
Dr. Martin Sr.: Because you've got to go to the hospital.
Dr. Martin Jr.: That's revenue.
Dr. Martin Sr.: You're going to go see your doctor. You're going to be ... never mind what's coming out of our pocket, in terms of ... I mean, you need to monitor your blood sugars. I mean, it's, like you said, it's nuts.
Dr. Martin Jr.: Even in Canada, they're talking about the cost ... that story came out about inflation in food next year and that the average Canadian's going to spend, I think, it's $400 more a year [00:24:00] on groceries and it's because the price of real food is going up. It's just going to drive people again to eat real food substitutes. Anyways, we could talk about this for a long time.
Dr. Martin Sr.: Oh, it's incredible.
Dr. Martin Jr.: The system is absolutely broken and this study that we just talked about is the verdict. It's proof that it's not working and it's drastic. Basically, to me, it's just like simple. Alright, what has everybody been doing to get to this failure rate and how do we fix it now? Alright, [00:24:30] basically do the opposite. In my opinion, for a lot of these things, we don't move enough as humans. We sit down a lot and I'm guilty of that myself. I mean, work is sitting now.
Dr. Martin Sr.: My work is sitting.
Dr. Martin Jr.: Yeah, work is sitting. We don't have those movements like we used to have where we would just walk around. We don't have that light sweat going on at all during the day anymore so we sit a lot. We're not exercising enough. We're stressed. People are stressed. All of these things-
Dr. Martin Sr.: Oh yeah, you add stress into the mix and wow.
Dr. Martin Jr.: It's an accelerator. You and I talk about stress, [00:25:00] it biochemically and hormonally is an absolute accelerant. It will take any condition and just make it worse very quickly. That's what's going on there as well. Anyway, we covered a fair amount of stuff in this thing. Now, we have to just quickly talk about ... If the problem is high circulating insulin, well then, how do you correct high circulating insulin? Of course, the number one thing is food. It's food. We talked ... You know that. [00:25:30] It's eating less carbs. It's eating less processed carbs. It's eating less junk food. That's first. Bring your insulin down that way.
Naturally control your blood sugar levels so that you don't need as much insulin. Get less of a blood sugar spike, you need less insulin, and then correct the problem that way. Then, you want to deplete, in my opinion, we have to start depleting more of our storage every day. After so many hours of fasting overnight, you start to burn off that liver glycogen so intermittent fasting, get in the habit of mixing that into your [00:26:00] routine to burn out those liver storage of glycogen. Go burn out the muscle glycogen. Go work out, lift heavy weights, go do high intensity interval training. Do those things.
Burn off fat, muscle glycogen. Then, again, start to burn off that fat for energy, but in order to do that, you have to fix a lot of hormonal stuff as well. People need their cortisol fixed, if they're estrogen dominant, they've got problems with estrogen. If they've got thyroid, their whole metabolism's running slower. There's a lot of little things that has to be fixed there, but that's how you [00:26:30] do it. That's how you reverse this. It would be nice if this was adopted and then down the road these things are done ... this study's done again and more and more people are passing this. This is a wake up call for people and the problem is that, and we're all guilty of this, is because it doesn't affect us this very second, it's not on the front of our mind.
It's something that affects us ... Very few people in their 20's are worried about dementia, but people in their 60's [00:27:00] are worried about dementia. The problem is that if they would have done it in their 20's, and 30's, and 40's, and 50's, it would have prevented it. Now, they've got to work double time to fight off something that might be coming. It's the same thing with everything. We only start to worry about things as they become a problem. That's the downside.
Dr. Martin Sr.: It ain't sexy.
Dr. Martin Jr.: It isn't.
Dr. Martin Sr.: We're not talking about the ... Talking about this ain't sexy. The nice thing is we have an audience and these people are very proactive.
Dr. Martin Jr.: Oh, and the fact that they're listening to podcasts like this-
Dr. Martin Sr.: We love you guys and what you're doing.
Dr. Martin Jr.: The number one thing that [00:27:30] somebody needs to do is learn about their own human body and educate themselves because the information they get from other sources or trusted sources are not necessarily the best for their health. Alright, we want to thank you for listening. I know this has been a little longer than normal. We want to thank you for listening and have a great day.
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